What scares you ?

To be aware of it is the scariest thing in the universe --- If it exists outside our perception.  Awareness that we are nothing compared to the size of the universe and our time of existence in this universe is less than the blink of a cosmic eye. Awareness that our senses are drastically limited to perceive the true nature of the universe. Awareness that any amount of scientific knowledge won’t be enough for us to differentiate if the universe is subjective or objective, that we're pre-programmed or we have a free will, that we are created or are we the  result of some random events (or experiment). For me this is my broad view.  At a more personal level what scares you.

  • Caelus I am totally with you on the WEF agenda. Everybody says I am a conspiciary theorist etc, but I am not I believe in 9-11 and the moon landings. There is masses of evidence from the WEF themselves and many govenments are going along with it. I have always been political, but never been on a demo, I will be leading ones on this issue. 

  • they already have their way tough, by 2030 all vehicles will have to be electric... can the common man afford a electric vehicle? ... no... vehicles will be for the rich in the future, us poors wont be allowed such fine chariots! they will be chariot's of the gods, of the ruling elites and we poors wont be allowed a vehicle which will furthur our poverty as its impossible to get a local job so you need a vehicle to reach any place of work.

    they are already making this dystopia, and they think they are making a utopia... they have already said to people that life support machines will have to be force turned off in the future and people will have to die for their environment ideas as they dont want life support machines to be on as they are big energy users lol these people are nuts i dont understand why the gov listens to them, listening to their ideas especially turning off life support machines kinda sounds ike any gov siding with them really wants to be on the next nuremberg trials lol

  • I am with you on that. Scared of my world changing dramatically from what it is now if the netzero lot have their way. Not particually scared of growing old as I will welcome retirement and the massive drop in anxiety from stopping work. 

  • i dunno... a big positive difference would be to cut the other stuff and increase what goes to the pension, so that we can instead lower the pension age to a more appropriate retirement age such as 50... or 55 or something... so that people can actually retire and not have to be forced to work ever second of their lives and not really get to enjoy their lives or have freedom.

    economically speaking it isnt a issue to do this because there is 1000 applicants per job now. we need to cut the people seeking work as there isnt enough jobs to go around anyway. so lowering the age of retirement and taking out a load of workers into state pension would ease the job pressures on younger people who need to earn a living and make their lives and raise a deposit on a home and so on. which is also another reason why pro migration people lie, they lie claim we need all this influx of migrant workers, we really dont, we have 1000 people applying for a single job now. we need less workers, less people.... or, more jobs, millions more jobs... but its harder to make more jobs than it is to control the amount of workers seeking work here.

  • Then everybody wins! 100% of my state pension can go to an area where it's actually going to make a big positive difference. 

  • ahh.... i checked my pension age for when i can claim and for people born in the 90s our pension age when we can claim state pension will be when we are 70 years old. so your age of euthanasia is the governments age where they will allow us to gain state pension in the future.

  • What's not to be scared about? Losing the full use of your body and potentially your mind, your world rapidly shrinking, the sudden ramping up of physical suffering with the knowledge that you will never fully recover again, more and more of the people you've known disappearing every year...

    I saw my grandparents' old age and if I could sign a paper to be euthanised when I hit 70, I'd do it now. 

  • Why are you scared by growing old? You’re not alone - I saw something on yahoo yesterday saying that the proportion of people afraid of growing old is increasing.

  • Governments, Society, growing old. The general level of stupidity among the common man and their willingness to be dragged along by groupthink.

  • The scary elephant in the room is AI in criminal hands.  It is creating algorithms exponentially while self improving. Where will it lead to??

  • Peanuts! I have a peanut allergy.

  • I’m almost the opposite - I’m unusually calm when I go to the doctors whether it’s because I’m ill or it’s normally quiet.

    (There’s a saying beware the injured golfer because a lot of golfers play better when they are injured because it distracts them from what’s normally going on in their heads.)

    I’m a bit uneasy round dentists though.

  • I have always had a fear of spiders and snakes. With regard to the latter, my mother has a phobia of snakes and I picked up on her fear at a very young age.

    The sight of things like electricity pylons, TV and telephone masts scares me, and also the architecture of cathedrals and certain churches. 

    The prospect of ever needing to have an operation scares me. When I was pregnant with my son, I remember spending the last few weeks of the pregnancy feeling terrified that I would end up needing to have an emergency C-section. 

  • Doctors. My body. (Sits in corner post meltdown, stimming frantically or goes into shut down while medical capacity is lost).

    Other than that, moral bravery is born of  autism. Don't ask our opinion if you don't want the truth. Sycophanic posterior licking and social tyranies of the water cooler hold no fear for me. Don't try to understand it  Just ignore the lot of it and keep your own counsel.

  • i dunno.... i dont fly myself and never even go on local holidays... but migration is pretty high from other countries, china has a yearly event where all their people do mass global holidays, indians are very global too. those 2 countries make up most of humanity these days and they have a big global travel culture.

    although india have less cars and more motorbikes... motorbikes are better for the environment, use less fuel too and less carbon footprint. i have a motorbike, its cheaper to insure, 200 quid per year.... a car is what 200 quid per month instead? ...was easy choice for me to make. i pick cheapest by far.

    we have a different view on environment.... i think im more towards ted kazynskys view (without the bombings ofcourse lmao, if he didnt do that hed have really made some good changes and done good in the world) that we mist protect natural green spaces... and that these left leaning people now they will hijack the environmental cause and make it about the "air" instead and then destroy green spaces and spread cities while claiming to be environemtnalists because they do so while focusing just on the air....he was right... thats happening. i consider the climate change folks to be those type, that want to spread their cities and focus on little things that is not actually protecting the environment.

    in my mind, we must rewild... we must cut back the urban places and recreate forests and woodlands... make the world beautiful.... but ofcourse my reason for that being that i want to live in a beautiful world, not a gray concrete world. for betterment of mental health... also it could do with being less cramped, too many people.... the lowering fertility rates everyone claims is bad i consider to be good. if we have less humans in the future, and more forests and woodlands... everyones mental health would be better. everyone can get out in and lose themselves in the green woods and forests and not see another human being and be able to unwind in isolation in woods in beauty.

    but ofcourse, the current climate change people, they want to destroy the green spaces while focusing on the air, spreading their cities, increasing population ten fold, they are all fallen for corporatism of environment issues... thats why its spread by media and big companies... its warped and twisted to their desires of economic growth and that means more humans, more cities, less green, more growth of humanity and its constructs.... but they will say they are the environment side because they focus on the air cleanliness lol

    so i sorta am for environment. but i dont trust the big media and social media pushed narratives. and i believe ted kazynsky was right about them. but he was a fool, if he didnt take to violence he could have made great movements and changes. its a shame what he did.

  • I know we've established in this thread that you're not super aware of the experiences and struggles of other groups of people, but the majority of the billions of people alive currently and in the future don't live lives of unrestricted driving and flying. The poorest people in the world are responsible for the least of the problems and face the harshest effects. 

    IIRC you're a climate change denier (correct me if I'm wrong and I apologise if I am) so I'm not sure how much point there would be in talking about how our selfish actions now will make the planet of future humans so much worse. Plugging our ears and carrying on as if nothing's happening isn't a good option. 

  • but those billions also want to use their cars, fly and eat meat too.... so im not sure they are paying for it... they are enjoying it, and if theres anything bad from it then they were part of it anyway and would be happy to take any consequences of their own actions right?

  • Yes.  I like the Nor folks.

  • So did you see the truly remote parts of the coast more as beautiful or bleak? There were times when I walked for maybe an hour solid with nothing but saltmarshes on one side and sea defences on the other and not a soul to be seen. For me that feels uplifting, I love wide open space with nobody around, but I can see where some might find it agoraphobic.

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