I HATE vapes. Anyone else agree?

I agree, they smell terrible. Artificial sweet sickly smell, awful. I hate the smell of cigarettes too. I quite like the smell of cannabis though.

It's good you tried though, hopefully at some point you'll feel in a good place to try again and beat it. It's so corny but one of the tag lines that stuck with me when I first tried cutting down and quitting the first time with NHS Stop smoking is "if at first you don't succeed, don't quit trying to quit" guess it worked for me because third time was literally the charm.

I use Grammarly too (the free version), but my bugbear is that it automatically wants to correct my British-English spelling to US-English. When I suspect myself of having made a typo, I find myself consulting the internet, which kind of defeats the purpose of me having Grammarly. 

There have been numerous occasions in my life when I have attempted to stop smoking. Even when I had once temporarily succeeded, I did not consider myself to be somehow superior (or whatever) to people around me that smoked. Therefore, if you were worried that I may have taken offence at your reply, please don't be.

Thank you for sharing the link to that YouTube video, which is interesting. I watched approximately half of it, before deciding that I would probably better off watching it on the large screen (my TV)... Less chance of me being distracted when I watch YouTube on my TV. 

I wanted to add this disclaimer but after going back to edit out the most illegible typos from my original reply to you I was afraid to do it a 3rd time to add this incase the spam bot ate the whole thing. (Grammarly is supposed to turn itself on and help me catch them when I start typing online but it doesn't always.)

Anyway I just wanted to clarify albeit belatedly I do not consder myself any better than current smokers just because I use the word addict, it's just a descriptor and how I felt about myself and my struggle to get off of nictotine, since according to The Oral Cancer Foundation it's actually more addictive than heroin and ampthetamines. And I really don't look down on people who struggle to quit it, it's legalised poison so it's everywhere that makes it much more difficult to quit, which is already a rough ride from a chemical point of view never mind a social one.

Incidentally I found this just stumbled over it while side bar hopping over on youtube so:
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This! In my twenties I used to smoke 40 a day, and looking back, I firmly believe that (yes, along with nicotine addiction) it was heavy stimming combined an excuse for a break from the office environment and its enforced socialising. If possible it'd be good for people to stop smoking or vaping, but it really is a brilliant stim. (PSA - please don't start smoking or vaping to stim!). Don't regret giving up at all, but I do sometimes "miss" it.

Vapes are an olfactory assault on others though. I find it far more offensive than smoking. And they're definitely damaging to health long term, though good short term as a smoking cessation technique.

Sporadic Sparkly said:

For existing smokers that have been unsuccessful in kicking the habit, I consider vapes to be a good thing. To those not in the know, vaping liquids (or salts) are available in a variety of nicotine strengths. The idea is to obviously reduce the nicotine strength to zero, and then stop vaping altogether.

This is my issue with vaping, it went from a smoking cessation aid to a trendy thing that people think they can just do endlessly in leu of actual cigarettes.

Thing is even on 0 nicotine it's still just a silly habit paying money to regularly be puting something in your body that doesn't belong there and you don't need to do it. No health pros, only cons.

I never got to 0 myself tho, tbh I got down to a 3, then just went "nah I don't want to spend any more money on this s**t". A very difficult 3 weeks of my life, but that's what happens when you kick an addiction to anything, gotta stop %100 or else you're still an addict.

The otherthing is being autistic I didn't realise at the time that the actions/movements involved hand and oral were covering a lot of stims I should have just been able to express naturally. Now I blow my money of fidget toys but at least they are good for me lol.

This might sound strange, but as a smoker, I dislike the smell of tobacco. Given the choice, I would rather have the smell of fruity-smelling vapour wafting in my direction, than tobacco smoke. 

For existing smokers that have been unsuccessful in kicking the habit, I consider vapes to be a good thing. To those not in the know, vaping liquids (or salts) are available in a variety of nicotine strengths. The idea is to obviously reduce the nicotine strength to zero, and then stop vaping altogether.

In addition to vapes being available in a variety of colours, many of them produce ridiculously large clouds of vapour, which is possibly why so many youngsters think it is cool to take up vaping. Even the vaping liquids used with vapes can look enticing. Not so long ago, I happened to watch something on the news about schools having to resort to installing vaping detectors, due to a worrying increase in youngsters taking up vaping. 

It surprises me that there are venues allowing people to vape indoors. It's not yet known if vaping causes long-term health effects to vapers, or indeed to anyone else. Therefore, I believe the existing laws that apply to smokers, should be applied to vapers as well. 

Absolutely. Let them get on with it . You have the sense not to do those things . They can all develop Cancer socially so they don't feel alone with their illnesses. 

Yeh it’s the same as watching people drink alcohol and giving themselves cancer. The only difference between drinking and vaping/smoking is that drinking is more socially accepted despite the health risks.

I hadn't realized people used them indoors. I was so relieved when indoor smoking in public places was banned. I don't often spend time in indoor public places though. I think the rule for vapes should be the same. I hate inhaling the smell outside and try to avoid it the same as I do with smoke. On the news recently they were reporting that vapes they tested had high levels of metals which could cause problems.

I think it is bad that they are sold with attractive colours as lots of school children now take up vaping. It is difficult, even with bag searches for schools to find them and the smell is unpleasant in the toilets for those with high sensitivity to smells 

Hello Matcha,

Don't feel weird . Vaping and Smoking is a filthy habit . If people want to slowly poison themselves , that's fine but for the rest of us it's something that is very unpleasant . If you don't like them , If they make you uncomfortable you have the right to tell them you don't like them using them near you .

Personally , How can you reason with people like that ? I'd just avoid them like the plague and watch them from afar poisoning themselves . Completely unnatural  .

I had to rely on them as a stopgap to quitting smoking (had to get in a less depressed headspace before I could go cold turkey), but that is really all they should be, the full long-term effects of vaping on health are not yet understood even if the vapor is less carcinogenic than smoke.
I really despise the way vapes are marketed to those too weak-willed (it's not that fighting an addiction isn't hard, but you still actually have to want to quit) to actually quit and to youngsters who never really smoked but grew up around smokers and want to do it because it is normalised for them to puff something or they think it looks cool and grown-up. Makes me think of those candy stick "cigarettes" that we had sold to us a kids, except this one gets aimed at 18-25s.

Yes they are awful! Even outside, they walk down the street and you can still smell it 100m behind them, it just lingers horribly,

I think you're right, the artificialness definitely makes it worse. I certainly don't think it's acceptable to do them indoors, and if I could I would restrict them to purely medical devices without the horrible smell. So many children having them marketed at them.

Sickly-sweet, disgusting smell. Even outside in the open air it is unbearable. Plus people vaping look ridiculous, like they are the Titanic on steam trials.

I know someone who vapes and make me feel nauseous. Also expensive habit. I would ban them. May ending up with COPD due to the smell. Plus shops selling them to young people.