The first place I was in (full time contract) held a meeting between management and HR and said I could leave the job there and then and be paid for the three months notice I would have worked. I hated the environment in that place so I was glad to go. I was told in the past while in this job that I wasn't productive enough. I worked here just under a year,
The second place did not renew my 3 month temporary contract citing performance and quality issues. This does not make sense as I focus a lot on detail so the quality should at least have been good. Four other temporary staff were kept on after their contracts ended. Out of the 5 temporary people, I was the only one not kept on.
Is this a pattern that's going to keep repeating itself? Saddening if so. Do they see the aspergers and make excuses to get rid of me? I thought my work quality was far better than others who were more pally with management (in other words the *** lickers).
I have always found I need to keep starting again in life. I'm in my 30s and it's back to the drawing board.
Although it's too late now, the jobs you've lost, you need to ask for evidence of the poor performance. Actual physical examples of what wasn't good enough, and also ask why these things were not raised at the time. If they can't, and you feel like they are doing it because of your disability, you can claim unfair dismissal, if you felt strongly enough.
As for starting again in life, that can be a good thing. I was stuck in a job for 12 years, where all my issues were highlighted, before my diagnosis. I was unhappy but very well paid so it was hard to leave. I eventually did, took some family time out and then tried something so unbelievably different, starring from the very bottom, and I've been lucky enough to land in a team of people who I truly get along with and don't really feel any different to at all.
It can happen.
Thank you. That is really a relief to hear. Maybe I haven't found the a suitable place yet. Thanks for the reply. I've decided to not pursue unfair dismissal because the big corporations always win. I think you can only claim unfair dismissal if you have been working in a place for over two years so I couldn't even if I wanted to.
You may well be right. I'd still be asking for evidence for dismissal though. It may well help going forward
Yeah - it doesn't hurt to get honest, blunt feedback if you want to adapt yourself to the workplace. You can't change if you don't know what the problem is.
The corporations certainly don't always win. My experience was it's less than a year and you can be fired for no reason (although a reason is always given) - this makes the trial periods meaningless.
However, there are exceptions. I was fired from one position a week before the 12 months - the real reason was they were outsourcing and had promised to re-employ staff elsewhere but it was too difficult for me due to the distance from home. The "official" reason was performance. I couldn't get a solicitor to take on the case until I had filed court documents as I was given (and paid) 1 months notice period which took me over a year. They settled out of court.The next position I was in for 6 months. I had a gf that was pregnant, and at a routine scan they told us the baby had died. We were told not to leave her alone until she had miscarried, or the appointment for a termination - whichever came first. I was due on nights that night so contacted my boss to inform him. What happened next was disgusting - over the next 2hrs I was bullied and then forced to go into work for a 12hr night shift. In a conversation that night, I questioned whether HR should be informed and was told the boss would find another reason to fire me. Sure enough, 2 months later they did.Again, no solicitor would represent me because it was less than a year - however I went down the sexual discrimination route as they would never have forced a woman that had miscarried to work. That was settled out of court too. I was tempted to take it into court but they "found" an email the night before between the boss & HR listing reasons they were firing me (none of them mentioned in the last meeting, and all of them sacking offences). I later found out the boss and his boss were both fired.Both of these were major UK companies with a lot of legal power.The last job I had lasted a month and every reason given was autism related - and they knew at the interview I was autistic. I left there quietly though as I really liked the guys and felt sorry for them. It was a very small team and they tried hard to fit me in.
I am recently diagnosed with ASD and in my late 50s. I have been working since I left University aged 21. Most jobs have lasted about 2 years - at that point I would either get bored and move onto something more challenging, or run into problems which forced me to leave. I am seen as a threat by bullies and by people who are engaged in corrupt activity at work. Unlike most of my colleagues I challenge what is going on. Maintaining my moral integrity has cost me a great deal in career terms, but I do not regret it.
Managing other people has always been extremely challenging for me, for reasons I now understand. I have avoided that for the latter part of my career. I work best when I can research and carry out tasks independently of colleagues. I excel in new roles and have often rescued projects that had got stuck because I can see different ways of doing things. My tolerance for confusion and uncertainty, open mind and ability to see patterns and connections made me a very good researcher.
As a woman my confidence, assertiveness and outspokenness have been a problem in the workplace. I fitted in better in predominantly male workplaces. Changes to my working environment over the years had a profoundly negative effect. The shift from individual offices to open plan was a disaster for me. For a while working from home for part of the week was acceptable in some of my professional roles, but this changed too.
Rather than attempting to fit in anywhere in the long term I have decided to look for short term contracts now where my strengths outweigh my limitations. Self employment is another option I am exploring. I should probably have done this years ago, but anxiety about not having a regular income made it difficult for me to give up salaried roles.
In many workplaces very little work is actually done - most of my NT colleagues seem to go to work to socialise. I was astonished when I realised a colleague's email inbox was full of personal conversations with colleagues. I prefer to leave my personal life at home and focus on getting the job done. I have no desire to share photos, discuss family matters or make friends at work. It is very hard when colleagues expect this of me.
The psychologist who assessed me encouraged me to draw up a career passport summarising work-related strengths and challenges. Having a clear idea about what works well for me and what is difficult should, in theory, help me to adapt current roles or find more suitable employment. The NAS template she sent me was very depressing - deficit focussed and uninspiring. I am going to try and come up with something better.
I used Access to Work in a couple of jobs after I developed hearing loss; unfortunately my employers had no real interest in making adjustments. I now realise they probably saw this as a convenient opportunity to get rid of me. In such circumstances there are legal remedies under employment law but these come at a high financial and emotional cost. Some employers are repeat offenders in terms of disability discrimination. It saddens me that nothing changes even when people are courageous and speak up.
This is all rather depressing I'm afraid - the only thing that gives me hope is the recent surge in autism activism. In my final career years I am determined to keep fighting for the employment rights of future generations of autistic people.
Clear case for unfair dismissal due to discrimination.
I really love your first employers. What a wonderful gift they gave you. An easy exit from a job you didn’t enjoy and some extra cash which would give you a little thinking space. Time to consider this new data input, i.e. time to consider and get clear on what it was about that environment that didn’t suit and from that, what would be more suited to you etc etc.
It’s interesting that you left your second job without fully satisfying yourself about the reasons why you were dismissed ~ that was a golden opportunity to discover more information/data on what you are good at and what you struggle at and how others see your performance etc. But hey hoe, we all miss many opportunities every day if our lives. We can’t take them all.
I’m not sure what the pattern is? You’re not clear and we all see things differently.
The pattern I see, is that you keep trying, no matter how many dead ends you come across, to get yourself into employment etc. This is a great quality of character. I see a pattern of you getting great gifts and you perceiving them as something else ~ rejection maybe? It sounds like you see these situations as rejections and you feel concerned that you will keep on getting rejected????
And it’s almost as if you see yourself in a position of redesigning your life, as a bad thing? It seems to me that you’ve got lots of experience and data that you can now use to maybe find a job that is more suited to you this time and in an environment that you enjoy, that not only acknowledges and accepts your ‘differences’ but positively celebrates them. Maybe you have a unique gift that nobody else in your organisation hasn’t got.? You’ve got a great opportunity to begin seeking those kinds of the opportunities or whatever opportunity it is you’re looking for.
What kind of work and working life, environment, pay scale etc are you looking for? Are you clear on this?
I think a lot of ASD people accidentally end up working in the wrong environment. I've been in science and tech my whole life where technical ability is valued far higher than fitting in socially.
I've worked with lots of odd people - probably undiagnosed ASD - so I don't stick out too much in comparison.
The worst places are where there's loads of politics and people playing power games, normally in office environments.
I've had to endure working in a couple of horrible places where I was surrounded by incompetent people with terrible management - but I was realistic enough to get myself out before too much mental damage was done.
The worst wa a small tech company where at the interview I was told how it was "all one big family and we all help each other."
The reality was I was expected to work late and assist everone else but they found excuses not to help me. I smiled and carried on but got myself a better job and left. They couldn't understand why I would leave such a happy place. And that's the problem, I thought to myself.
Paid three months notice! I love it.
In my last job I was only paid 1 week in lieu of notice.
Your experiences sound depressingly familiar to me.
I am in my fifties and have only had short term jobs with management and HR people getting rid of me as quickly as possible.
Now I am stuck in between employers who don't want me because they think I'm unemployable AND the job centre who insist that I am perfectly healthy and should be working.