Greetings, Anyone. I do not Post as Frequently as I used to. But this is a "Hot Topic" socially right now, but, a bit like CARS, no-one started a Thread about it.
My question is... the folly of "because One cannot see it, then it does no-one harm?"
...With regards to "Climate Change", this here WWW/Internet... & Electricity, Smartphones, Radiowaves, UHF, Mining Rare Minerals for said products, etc... All of this activity grows exponentially, just like the Population. Both are harmful in My Own opinion... but I am, um, 'insignificant'... so I was wondering about what anyone else's opinions about "Climate Change" are here in general.
(Beware I often have to sign off abruptly, sorry. But I post this and see if/how anyone else is interested in anyone else about it all.) From Me, Good Fortune To All Good People.
basically we have less than 20 years to start doing really significant changes ( stop using petrol diesel heating oil ) otherwise the weather patterns are going to change in ways I cant predict or stop. At same time we have to stop using plastic s much as we currently do because it is now in most if not all food chains.
Follow, support, and listen to the top aspie,,, Greta Thunberg
There are a lot of hard truths that we as a species are going to have to face up to. Pretty much we're going to have to reverse the last few hundred years of industrialisation, or, one way or another, affect a dramatic reduction of the human population. For me, I'm not having any kids, so my carbon footprint ends with me. I feel this grants me licence to not give to much of a damn about global warming if I'm honest, and anyway, my impact as an individual is entirely negligible while you have developing nations bulldozing their crap straight into the ocean and polluting like there's no tomorrow. I'll do my part of course, but I'm not going to feel bad about driving into town once a week to get my groceries or heating water for a shower each day.
Yay, Mr.Aidie, of the CAR Thread... You are My first reply, Yay!
I figure a lot of misunderstanding or hate might occur, but I really wanted opnions from the "Autism" (i.e. telling the truth) point-of-view. So I tentatively began this Thread. I also have a different perspective --- I try to study "chemicals" at the level of their composition (i.e.C6H12O6)... but I am (not allowed to become) a qualified expert.
...But I know what I know and see what I see. The main "enemy" is the "ECONOMY"; and Oil, Gold, Wheat-Fields, Population... are the main generators of Money. To link all of these needs WWW and Cars/vehicles-Deforestation. All links rely upon Population to link to, which generates more Money (ECONOMY). This is the circle...
...A circle which misses out exactly what Money and Population and Food are made of. I began this Thread, wondering and sharing seemingly disparate thoughts about the whole thing... many persons who comment about "climate change" cannot associate all of the SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS together --- nyeeek!!
"Trees are worth more dead than alive" in the ECONOMY.
To reply to Your Good self... I did not know that that Greta person was Autistic. Thanks for telling Me... But I really did not want a Thread focussing upon just one matter/person alone.... but I had to start a Thread to find out how things would progress (much like Your marvellous Car Thread!)
Thanks again. Good Fortune as always.
Qliphoth said:For me, I'm not having any kids, so my carbon footprint ends with me. I feel this grants me licence
...Greetings "Qliphoth"... THIS IS ME as well. It should be a good thing for Your contributing to this, um, "climate change" "argument"... I honestly thought that it would turn into a bad scrap. But I see Your Point-of-view. We in 'civilised industry' cannot always escape acting 'civilised in industrial areas', something like that. We are often told off for using plastic and Cars, but We are often not offered a choice.
Thank You for being honest here (I really meant that this is like Me as well.)... I wait to see if/how this Thread might develop still. Thank You Very Much.
Disambiguating Cynosure said:Beware I often have to sign off abruptly, sorry.
...Pfui. It is useful that I wrote *that*... I got two replies to two replies in before My device "crashed" and I had to restart 'n everything... so I am properly signing off, now. Some stuff is better than nothing - Thanks again and over to Aidie and Quilphoth so far.
Where I live, environmental degradation is blindingly obvious.
First off, may I point out I think anthropogenic (manmade) climate change is real. I emphasise the first part because climate change on its own is a ludicrous phrase.
However, it is clear that it is being used as a tool by rich people to continue to dictate to the poor, and to lower their standard of living by lumping on tariffs and so called carbon taxes onto their life expenses. Most of these carbon taxes are not progressive and hit the poor hardest. The monies raised do not help green causes much either.
A lot of the activists like Greta Thunberg come from upper or upper middle class backgrounds so do not understand true poverty. Putin, of all people, is one of the few world leaders to point out Thunberg is basically a front for other interests. They have used her youth, and more shamefully her autism, as a shield for criticism of their tactics and programme. When Thunberg goes off message it is very obvious she is lost, and her handlers don't like that.
Greta's handlers use her autism as a shield for criticism of their programme. Shameful.Itis obvious she is a front, and a close examination of what XR wants includes a lot of things which will work against the working class. It is curious how much of a free pass XR gets off the British government compared to strikers or poll tax protesters, or even football fans.
And why do all these solutions seem to involve punishing the poor more than the rich, or even worse, various people jetting to Davos or other junkets. Something not right here.
Witness also the kid gloves Extinction Rebellion gets compared to other protest groups.
I have the idea that we all pollute our environment in many ways that are immediately dangerous,
petrol chemicals nuclear leaks and other ways that will take time to become obvious like radio wave causing cancer and damaging DNA of all things in nature.
Not so often talked about GMO pollution which should be included in climate change but never is,
Water theft to feed huge farms like Avacardo farms in South America.
But honestly the most hideously egregious is the dumping of waste into the sea.
All of these things are done buy giant corporation that are without impunity.
As everyday people we at most litter and drive cars and are subsequently taxed for this trespass.