Trigger warning: Girl gets arrested, seemingly for being Autistic in a built up area.

The UK PACE caution is  " Anything you do say may be given in evidence."  That means the defence can use the interview to support their case.

I mentioned this also as a gay man because I know from experience not only of police officers who are not only homophobic they are also ableist 

And importantly remembering that those standards apply differently to autistic people. That’s a very unpopular view but it is actually the way the law works as I understand it. You can’t apply a one size fits all approach to these things you have to take the specific differences in the way autistic people interact with the world into account.

I saw a video of the incident sometime during the covid lockdowns. It was really a appalling display of police brutality towards a young autistic girl. She just said that the police officer, which I presume was a transman, looked like a lesbian family member of hers, and that triggered this police officer to tell their entire team to treat her inhumanity. That's an abuse of power. Clearly if a police officer can't handle the word lesbian, they shouldn't have a badge, because there will be offenders who will call them much worse then that. They're not a victim of some kind of misgendering hate speech, because they're the one who is ordering all the abuse to take place on this poor girl, and luckily her mother had video taped the whole ordeal.

It really does come down to those in positions of Athority maintaining acceptable standards of behaviour and properly enforcing those standards, making people take responsibility for their failure to reach those standards by thier behaviour and sanctions put in place, the severity of the punishments reflecting the gravity and seriousness of the offence committed 

yes.I saw that. I think her time on the force may not be as long as she expected.

It seems the same officer is under investigation again, I can see it is a challenging situation but the other officers seem to be calming the situation. The people being sprayed are not confronting the officer. Only one officer seems to be over reacting again.

youtu.be/fk3Va0Iipu8

Oh it's never condoned, by "authority" (AKA socially sanctioned bullying) in my experience, and does not make one popular (indeed, when I finally put down one bully (in my 30's I was socially shunned, but they clearly were not my friends anyway, so *** 'em).    

That particular bully however sure didn't come back for a bit more, and I bet the next time he thought of getting up in some little blokes grille he remembered what happened at my hands. 

The violence doesn't always have to be physical if you are resourceful. On person who liked to drink my drinks when I was in the army ended up drinking one I'd put 18 ex-lax into... 

I did hear of an incident where a few of the older kids offered a bully some "peer counselling" behind the wheelie bins. Apparently, the offer alone was sufficient to bring about the change in behaviour.

But generally, where the violence is condoned by someone in authority, it simply reinforces the bully's belief that might is right.

I Sperg said:

The ONLY thing that stops bullying is overwhelming levels of violence applied to the bully by the victim without any fair warning whatsoever.

And do it with no witnesses, and do not stop until they can't make any noise or or offer resistance any more.

Everything else is just messing about..

That was certainly my experience of physical bullying in school.

I once or twice completely lost it (I could kill when that happens) and was afterwards left alone.

The ONLY thing that stops bullying is overwhelming levels of violence applied to the bully by the victim without any fair warning whatsoever.

And do it with no witnesses, and do not stop until they can't make any noise or or offer resistance any more.

Everything else is just messing about..

Let us look at the possibilities:

(a) The officer was a lesbian. That is perfectly legal. There was no hate speech involved, just a statement of fact.

(b) The officer was NOT a lesbian. Again, that is not an accusation. Homosexuality is a normal part of the human condition. The young person perceived similarities between her Nana and the officer and verbalised the (eroneous) conclusion.

Is "lesbian" no longer a politically-correct term for females with sapphic proclivities?

We pay for shoplifting through increased prices and increased insurance premiums. If the police cracked down on the "minor" antisocial behaviour - graffiti, shoplifting, public nuisance etc. it would set the tone. In my previous work, I saw young offenders who received cautions and warnings and did not give a furry fig. They got supervision orders which were not enforced because there were not enough probation officers. One warning is enough.

It is the same with cyberbullying. I saw it at school, with kids being bullied by offensive texts. This is illegal, but instead of calling the police to actually deal with the perpetrators, the school arranged "counselling" for the victim, and the perpetrator got a free  "holiday" under the guise of a suspension. My solution would be for the cyberbullies to be taken to court, and if found guilty justice should include not just a fine, but having their expensive phone destroyed.

Ian said:

Apparently, the police will turn up mob-handed to arrest an autistic teenager in her own home, but they will not arrest shop-lifters. What is our society coming to?

insurance should cover the shops but civil unrest makes bad headlines so they focus on the stuff that is in their interest to control.

Apparently, the police will turn up mob-handed to arrest an autistic teenager in her own home, but they will not arrest shop-lifters. What is our society coming to?

Different sort of "pride parade", that is...

Can I have a cat-o-nine-tails?

Very useful in a tight spot.

See if you can get permission for some of us to carry ceremonial spears?

Just to be clear if all goes well I'll be talking to a leeds based charity about this soon. So if you've any input now is the time.

Some people say that in any and all interactions with police that you should always record the interaction for your own safety and inform them beforehand that the interaction is being recorded, just like they do, just like they are obliged to inform you of any recording that they are making - this would certainly be true of An Garda Siochana in Ireland as it has been said many times that the Gardai are totally corrupt and has been revealed to be so during Covid