I don't know much about Greta, except that many young people are starting to take activist roles-probably bc most of us that are older feel 'beat down' to stop many of the corrupt things in this world. I had to post this short video, mostly-for Dr. Tony's response where he laughs when ask, "What do you think about ASD as being called a mental illness." His laugh & response, that it's 'last century thinking.' I JUST LOVE HIM!
Well I think it’s a neurological condition that is characterised by spared-cognition and social-impairment, which means that we display a considerable-deviation from the average neurological configuration, and we for-the-most-part have to use the learning/memorisation abilities that are condition has spared us. It certainly doesn’t have its roots in psychology and cannot be cured, so perhaps that is what Tony means, if he meant we are not at a disadvantage then that is harmful, because it incentivises society to avoid adjusting to our unequal-access to opportunity as a result of our condition.
The acid test will be DSM-6, which I hear is on the stocks. The advent of NeuroDivergence gives them scope, as we desperately need headway away from the one size fits all currently happening. So little is known about high-functionality! We're seeing new syndromes revealed, high-sensitivity, for example, although the texts don't go anywhere near far enough in gamut. What we really need is some critical thinking from all, unpacking the diagnoses, in the way I rabbit on about the communications issues and obsession being subjective, simple discrimination from NTs. Daring to question the diagnoses, telling the NT psychologists what being us is really all about. From what I see in Yale's Genius School, they really have very little idea indeed - which is hardly surprising, given the thinking's rarely more than a year old. Sure, the diagnosis goes back to WWII, but it was pure symptomatics, no in-depth understanding. They've only just started asking us for our input: don't forget what a rare bird Temple Gradin was thirty years ago, daring to tell them. They're still brainsplaining now, though.
Actually, my first step in my Peacemaking career was finding his brother Richard, Lord Attenborough, the WW1 battledress uniforms for his first outing as a producer, Oh! What A Lovely War. It upset Joan Plowright considerably, as she saw it as detracting from the satire in her budget-driven use of pierrot dress. As far as I was concerned, it consolidated my claim to being a heritage folkie, having been taught Sussex Morris by Freddy Hambleton as an 8 year old. More usefully, a couple of months later, with basic drill training complete, I was given special orders to be in uniform outside the School gates at 0630 Saturday. Bemused, I none the less complied, catching the milk train, and was standing there feeling as foolish as only a 14 year old utterly green CCF Cadet can, when a parp-parp came down the road and the High Command hove into view, aboard a Charabanc - in reality, the cast of the film, en route from Plowright's Theatre Royal Stratford to Clapham Common, in full fig, as a PR stunt, to join the London-Brighton Vintage Car Rally - including Kenneth Moor, the star of Genevieve, who'd just made the event famous. But not just him, the cream of 1960s stage, from Gielgud and Olivier through the Redgraves and Mills to Maggie Smith and Ian Holm. More stage nobility and knights than I care to think of. I snapped a salute, and was saluted back, but in that, a message passed. The kids in 1969 are every whit the measure of those of 1917. What they didn't know is my great-grandpa was an actual hero of 1914, the embodiment of Gallant Little Belgium recovering from his wounds in the Sussex Country House set. As it was, one of the songs was still our marching song, so when Maggie sings, "a baby boy-scout", it's sort of personal.
I don't. His shifting the goalposts has me repulsed: he should withdraw the High-functioning diagnosis if he doesn't know what he's talking about. My communications issues are because Neurotypicals lack the brain capacity to follow. My obsessiveness is because it takes a lot of work to construct new thinking many times the size they're used to. They're not used to that much focus that long. So no, I'm not disordered, how dare he say I am? I've a top IQ and a decent share of a Nobel Prize to back it. Does he?
Greta's IQ would have been marked against mine. She complains she had no childhood, she had her nose in books trying to make sense of this crazy world. Too much detail, not enough structure, for a generalist: you may know everything about nothing, Mr Expert, some of us want to know enough about everything (starting from recognising we know next to nothing about the entire ontological gamut) to be able to judge who's full of BS. Generally, it requires coherent corroborated in-depth studies: in six years searching, the first common sense has only been started in the last year.Yale only started it's Genius school last year, 2020, and even there, Craig Wright's feeling his way.
So perhaps he's hearing my scorn. I don't think differently, I think more, and I have some weird traits too, reflecting my right-brain usage. However, in the case of that entire school of prejudiced know-it-alls, from Asperger to Dabrowski to Attwood and co, accept we're born bright, school us accordingly, and stop trying to drive us crazy through isolation. Don't mark us to Neurotypical norms, we're neurodivergent and those norms don't apply. Let's play the Two Ronnies and Cleese Class Distinction game. Me, IQ 153/4. Norman Normal, IQ 104. Simple Simon, marginally incompetent, 70. 153/104 = 104/70. Or more plainly, how Norman sees Simon is how I experience him. Thankfully for Norman, few are duller than Simon. Sadly for me, half of humanity are duller than him. They can't stick me as a result. I'm not interested in their reliance on the media telling them what to believe, instead of thinking for themselves. You know the kind of thing, "10 things you need to know about..." Mindless support for celebrity for the sake of celebrity.
"Historical research has now shown that he [Asperger] was...a well-adapted cog in the machine of a deadly regime. He deliberately referred disabled children to the clinic Am Spiegelgrund, where he knew that they were at risk of being killed. The eponym Asperger’s syndrome ought to be used with awareness of its historical origin." Slagstad, Ketil (28 May 2019). "Asperger, the *** and the children – the history of the birth of a diagnosis". Tidsskrift for den Norske Laegeforening. 139 (9).
Sorry, i disagree. Hans Asperger was not evil. He was an outspoken anti nâzi. The SS did not arrest him nor the gestapo as he was useful to them. Im a Aspie, always have been, always will be.
TheLoneWolf,
If you haven't done so yet, watch some videos or read some books about "neurodiversity". Fortunately some professionals have began to embrace it and see it is possibly the next paradigm shift to inclusion.
One book I suggest is "The Power of Neurodiversity" by PhD. Thomas Armstrong. He talks about several neurological conditions including autism about the strengths that come with them and how to create environments suitable, and which jobs these conditions can have an advantage of.
How about you use google and find out yourself and make a decision for yourself. I found out this information within a couples of minuets on google.
Greta is specifically chosen / programmed to take advantage of the 'speshul' girl-child persona to tug the heart strings and fog the minds of the typical viewer. An underage 'mother earth' shtick. All very cynical, coordinated and timed by a whole team of media professionals to influence public opinion to get funding support for their many parasitical businesses. .
I feel sorry for her - she's been totally used, abused and will be dumped when she's no further use to them.
I wonder if there would have been quite so much hostility and views of her being in some way 'controlled' had she been a boy, rather than a girl? I believe that she is an adult now, as she is 18 years old. Being the daughter of an actor and opera singer and the granddaughter of a theatre director doesn't strike me as being particularly tainted by corporate big-business, quite the opposite. Besides which, who is responsible for the actions of ones parents?
She’s just a puppet being abused by people with nasty agenda. It’s child abuse on a global scale. If you live her it’s like loving Johnson. Love him - you’re like him. Unstrustworthy thief.
Like Greta and you’re just adding to the child abuse she’s going through
Gerty,
Autism doesn't start off as people describe "a superpower", people on the spectrum have to turn autism into I prefer to say "gift" as they'll always be limitations as well as strengths.
I didn't see my autism as a gift when I couldn't control my emotions, meltdowns, overreactions, violence etc.
Once I overcame all these obstacles and stopped having meltdowns I were able to apply characteristics of autism and it had a big effect on my performance.
What I see as the problem is I imagine most autistic people are not been given equal opportunities to put their talents to use because the public is so busy overlooking us thinking we struggle in all areas.
I swear, if I hear one more doctor here in the U.S. say "Aspergers" I'm going to lose it. I realize it was used in the past, and the DSM5 is 9 yrs old aprox....but there is no such term. It's now called ASD-why am I educating you, the doctor?
Well here in the UK ~ the International Classification of Diseases version 10 is still being used and will continue to include Asperger's Syndrome as a diagnosable condition until January 2022 (which is when the new ICD11 fully takes over), and also the DSM5 since 2013 still refers to Asperger's Syndrome in the following respect:
Note: Individuals with a well-established DSM-IV diagnosis of autistic disorder, Asperger’s disorder, or pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified should be given the diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. Individuals who have marked deficits in social communication, but whose symptoms do not otherwise meet criteria for autism spectrum disorder, should be evaluated for social (pragmatic) communication disorder.
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/hcp-dsm.html
So there is such a term in historical and modern usage, and it may be the case that AS will continue to be mentioned in diagnostic reports here and internationally as the former classification; just as it is in respect of the DSM5 for however long.
Perhaps also keep in mind that many people really are against autism getting described as being a developmental disorder ~ hence in the UK at least most people have settled on the 'D' for Disorder being replaced by 'C' for Condition, and are getting diagnosed with ASC instead:
The broader continuum of Autism is usually referred to as Autistic Spectrum Disorder (A.S.D.), or Autistic Spectrum Condition (A.S.C.). They are really the same thing but we tend to call it a condition nowadays as it is less stigmatising than being labelled as having a disorder.
https://psychiatry-uk.com/autistic-spectrum-condition/
Also ~ I am a qualified and retired healthcare professional ~ rather than as such a Doctor.
Sia is so bad for autism. That movie makes me sick.
