Published on 12, July, 2020
Anyone knows any provider able to perform the ABA on adults? I have seen plenty of centres for children, but none for an adult.
The patient would be me. Apparently, ABA is the only therapy that teaches how to "mask" more and better. Since I am one of the few people here with a real job, I am required to "mask" in my life. It's a survival need.
Lots of us here have 'real jobs'. What you've said here is extremely disrespectful and not based on any fact (yes there are statistics out there, and yes it's an issue, but there are also other kinds of employment - self-employment, etc - that are not covered in that statistic. I know a lot of Autistic people who are freelancers, for example, and earn good money and have great lives and lots of job satisfaction). To be perfectly honest, if this is how you go on in your daily life, then Autistic behaviours are the least of your worries, in my opinion. Perhaps work on being kinder and less judgmental. Hope the behavioural analysts you've found help you cover that.
Academics love to write enormous papers full of tables about the most trivial, useless things. From what I could see in the uni, I think that ASD and OCD are a prerequisite for any academic career. Too bad that I was born with ASD and ASPD
No, they do most of the same things, but they do them subconsciously, with no intellectual effort or strain at all.
That to me reads like a list of my typical daily interactions. Are you telling me neurotypical people honestly do things differently!?
Martin said:That is because 'suitable employment' for autistic people is hard to find, not that autistic people are unemployable
That's exactly the same thing
Martin said:mainstream schooling is, in general, a form of drawn out torture for most autistics
same for the vast majority of normies, too. I've seen a lot of normies failing school. School is just anti-human, not anti-ASD.
However, I managed to find some behavioural analysts, so the point is moot.
That is because 'suitable employment' for autistic people is hard to find, not that autistic people are unemployable. If you add the fact that mainstream schooling is, in general, a form of drawn out torture for most autistics, there is therefore a legacy of autistic people failing to get the qualifications required to do the jobs that are most suited to them. This is the direct result of school being fundamentally inimical to autistic children. I was crippled by anxiety when faced by public examinations - those big halls filled with rows of little desks and crowds of apprehensive people - but managed to get the required grades (not without a couple of panic attacks in the process), many autistics do not. This allowed me to get into scientific research where I thrived, it is a profession that amply rewards typical autistic traits.
The problem is not autistic people, but the education system being almost entirely unsuitable for them.
" I asked for some professional able to administer the therapy ". In all probability this does not exist, except if you were a millionaire and could commission a therapist to develop a bespoke therapy. In the real world you are stuck with putting up with whatever behavioural traits you think are holding you back, or doing the leg-work in the relevant literature.
Judge Dredd said:Sorry, I asked for some professional able to administer the therapy, not for a dense, illegible academic paper. You know, not everyone is an academic. That's like giving a book about fluid theory to somebody asking for a plumber.
You don't need to be an academic to read that paper. Table 2 provides a comprehensive list of masking behaviours and techniques for you to work from. Is this easy enough for you to understand?
Good luck but be aware that masking is very damaging. Don't be surprised if you burnout big style and become one of the statistically likely autists not in employment.
Judge Dredd said:I am not an actor and I do not want to become one. My degree is in IT, not in performance acting
If you need to mask to pass as "normal" as you have stated before then you need to act like a normal.
masking = acting.
You are never going to become "normal" as your brain is not wired that way so acting is really your only option if that is your end goal.
I do not need a goddamn acting coach, I am not an actor and I do not want to become one. My degree is in IT, not in performance acting
Judge Dredd said:An acting coach has no experience in dealing with autistic people.
Here is an acting coach who has experience working with autistic people:
TRICIA HITCHCOCK Acting Coach MA CPBA
I specialise in coaching neurodivergent actors, particularly those who are autistic or learning disabled. My work includes coaching for actors at The Barbican, The National Theatre (AZC European Tour), The Kiln, Headlong, Netflix and ITV. I work closely with Access All Areas.
https://www.triciahitchcock-actingcoach.com/
And here is a link for the UK Society for Behavioural Analysis: Search Behavioural Analyst:
https://uk-sba.org/search/
Keep in mind that the strain of "Faking it to make it!" can lead to psychological fragmentations that are otherwise more usually referred to as mental, emotional and or nervous breakdowns, particularly in later life as the fixed egostates / personae (as being masked behaviourisms) increasingly restrict and obstruct the dynamic vitality of the personality ~ hence those numerations who get diagnosed late in life after the capacity to mask overwhelms and debilitates them, leaving them burnt out and broken down to whatever extent.
New shocking data highlights the autism employment gap
Only 22% of adultts with ASD are emplioyed. Numbers speak louder than words.
Sorry, I asked for some professional able to administer the therapy, not for a dense, illegible academic paper. You know, not everyone is an academic. That's like giving a book about fluid theory to somebody asking for a plumber.>If in suitable employment, autistic people can be at least as productive as most neurotypicals.
22% of adult aspies are in employment. Numbers talk.
Martin said:I worked full-time while writing a master's thesis, then a PhD thesis, in the evenings and at weekends. If in suitable employment, autistic people can be at least as productive as most neurotypicals.
I've worked most of my life, the vast majority being in full-time employment, with long periods including an evening or weekend job in addition.
But of course we don't need to justify ourselves to Trolls.
As you can work, one of the few who can - apparently, why not do some work and cut out the middleman by researching masking, and then apply the information to your own behaviour? Have a gander at this paper "Self-reported camouflaging behaviours used by autistic adults during everyday social interactions", which can be read in full or downloaded here: https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10130518/ .
BTW, I worked full-time while writing a master's thesis, then a PhD thesis, in the evenings and at weekends. If in suitable employment, autistic people can be at least as productive as most neurotypicals.
please, just shut up
Judge Dredd said:An acting coach has no experience in dealing with autistic people
Oh come on JD, there are going to be some who have experience of this. We make up around 1-3% of the population so that implies for every hundred people they have coached, they will have had at least one autist.
Have you even tried looking? Don't knock it until you have please.
An acting coach has no experience in dealing with autistic people. Oh, why I even bother answering to you?
Judge Dredd said:Since I am one of the few people here with a real job,
Judge Dredd said:Since I am one of the few people here with a real job, I am required to "mask" in my life. It's a survival need.
I would suggest an acting coach - after all that is what masking is - acting.
You don't need to mask dude, you ARE the law!