autism or aspeger

is there are difference between autism and asperger?

if yes can anyone tell me what the difference?

  • and also to give you guys some further information, when people talks about difference between autism and aspeger, most people with just autism, they got diagnosed at a very young age but people with asperger, they got diagnosed usually around 8- 16 years old.but some got diagnosed very late around age of 40 or sometimes 50 and some didnt even get any diagnosis. only those with asperger get diagnosed at very young age if they also have some other related condition such as ocd or adhd.

    and people with just autism, you can tell by their behaviour but with asperger, you cant tell until you got to know them. and also in terms of interacting with other socially, most people with just autism prefer interact with their own world while most people with asperger, they prefer interact like other but don't know how.

    am I clear?

  • You can check on this website for more information about the difference, hope this helps :)

  • I tend to be most unapologetic about my changeability.  I too have a notion that I'm just adapting to changing circumstances or unfolding data.

    Today's label of choice for me is that I'm just a 'slow person' (on a similar basis to such things as Slow Food ;-) I've been told this many times, and I can see that it is quite close to the mark. I would justify that slowness by talking about my dyspraxic tendencies, poor balance, physical clumsiness and lack of grace. I tend to do one task at a time, and break it down into manageable sub-tasks Almost no multitasking, and I get easily flummoxed if anyone tries to crowd me or hurry me along. I think of  it as slow , but steady. I could also attempt to justify my slowness by talking about how i am surrounded by major league risk-takers, who are extremely accident prone. I've had my fair share of accidents, but I tend to learn from my trial and error. I'm the tortoise to their hare. I usually make it to the finish line, while they are often still nursing their 'crash' wounds. I have almost zero competitive spirit. I don't 'run' much, because I prefer to take a look around as I walk. But I do walk fast. I often much prefer jobs that most people would consider extremely boring and uncool.

    But slow is now considered politically incorrect in these crash & burn times.

  • Dammit, having to repost a lost post...

    Maybe Neurofluid? or Polyneuro?

    As for changing your mind:

    "When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do, sir?"

    NTs are often guilty of 'sticking to what they know (believe)' even in the face of overwhelming evidence that they're wrong.

    For myself, I am often frustrated that others can't/don't just 'get' what seems obvious to me, plus I have been known to argue both sides of a case where there was equal merit - I think the fact that NAs usually discount any emotional component of a position is confusing to NTs as it looks like we 'constantly change position and attitude' when actually we're simply 'following the facts'...

  • Interesting reply. I was already beginning to think that 'neuroatypical'' might fit the bill. And the idea of building on 'divergence', rather than 'diversity' was also considered. And yet, I still haven't found the term that I reckon best sums me up. Perhaps 'neurovariance' might give others some indication that my position is not at all static, on a day-by-day, hour-by-hour basis.To indicate better that this is a personal position, perhaps I could say that I'm an individual who experiences chronic neurovariance; but yet again someone got there first - not too surprisingly.

    https://embraceasd.com/neurotypical-and-neurodivergent/

    But I see they use neurovariance as a broad brush term. But it might still be quite relevant to me, as I have lost count of the times I have been accused of constantly changing my position and attitude. I might even be well summed up as being somewhat neuronebulous.

    But I don't really want to be too cranky about different labels. What might suit me, will almost certainly not suit others. I'd encourage people to explore these terms until they find one that they are most comfortable with. (No sarcasm was intended in the composition of this post ;-) And I might even be classified as allistic (according to the above link), in the sense that I might actually be considered by some to exhibit non-autistic neurodivergence. I sense thus that i might eventually want  a DNA profile, or some sort of brain scan to figure that out; but that's probably years in the future, if I last that long.

  • I use 'neuroatypical' as it is a better antonym for 'neurotypical'...

    Neurodiverse is only accurate when describing a population, not an individual

    Or consider 'ND' to be 'neurodivergent' (which will please Veronica Roth fans!)

    There's a very informative blog post here on the 'correct' use of terms relating to ASD etc. 

    https://neurocosmopolitanism.com/neurodiversity-some-basic-terms-definitions/

  • Some of us have both terms in our diagnosis because the diagnostician still believes that the term Asperger's is relevant, and communicates something that the term autism doesn't entirely. I'm not very enthusiastic about being called an Aspie, though. It has connotations that I personally don't connect with. But I do quite like both terms together. I'm sometimes tempted to use 'neurodiverse', but I'm not altogether happy with that either. It just seems a bit patronising. And as i have found so few who really welcome my self-identification and diagnosis, I'm also tempted to call myself a long-term recluse. i''ve done that a few times, when people have made comments like, "In all my years here, I've never actually seen you before". It no longer bothers me for people to see me in that light.

  • The main difference is perception by NTs...

    If you say 'autism' they think of 'Rain Man' - hand flapping, savantism, no eye-contact, non-verbal etc.

    If you say 'asperger's' they think of Sheldon Cooper - intelligent, a bit 'odd' but 'almost normal'

    It's all ASD and now and all that differs is the level of support required and the way it presents.

    Also it's not a 'linear' spectrum the way people think of it with "Severely autistic" people at one end and "High-functioning 'Asperger's'" people at the other...

    This cartoon provides a great explanation: https://the-art-of-autism.com/understanding-the-spectrum-a-comic-strip-explanation/?fbclid=IwAR0YsBca3ZMSznc8PQ8xA5ad_eEI1MYMw1sgOPV9GcdmR2eFtd9ZjtuueMQ

  • I got a diagnosis of Aspergers back early this decade but prefer to say I’m autistic 

  • There's a theory called "twice exceptional" that you might find interesting to look up and tends to apply to Aspergers kids a lot.

  • Yeh I think you're right about the developmental stuff. I started walking and talking etc. on the same timescale you'd expect from any child and I was bright and able in school, but it was always just the social stuff I really struggled with. Same is true today! 

  • well here what I think. when people just have autism, they also have delay development but when people have asperger syndrome, they don't have delay development except difficulties with social interaction and some repetitive behaviour

    people with just autism can be severely autistic and may have an intelligent of a child but those with asperger do look like just other people except look very awkward.

    Am I right?

  • Since the most recent diagnostic handbook was released in 2013, everybody is now diagnosed with "Autism Spectrum Disorder" (ASD) rather than with the more specific labels like Asperger's that were present in the previous diagnostic handbook. Now all forms of autism are lumped together under the term ASD instead. A lot of people still choose to use the term Asperger's though. I think it's basically a term for high functioning autism without any intellectual disability, but someone might correct me on that.