tooth and gum decay

tbh britain and british people have a stereotype that our teeth are bad and wonky and brown...

there could be a vitamin d thing in that because britain is cloudy and has no sun so people of britain would lack vitamin d naturally more than anywhere else on the planet, thus the lowest natural vitamin d place such as britain rightly earns its stereotype of having bad teeth, it could be due to the lack of natural vitamin d due to our climate.

I tried a lot of things, took a lot of advice, over the last 60 years, and I remember keeping my mouth squeaky clean but the plaque used to form out of nowhere so fast... 

Then I started this stuff, and the process (way too late) stopped.

It's like some people and me can eat exactly the same diet but they will get fat and I won't.

Unlike the prevailing medical/social theory du jour we are NOT all identical fungible units stamped off a press, and clearly I've had a vitamin D deficiency most of my life.

I also no longer seem to get colds since I started the vitamin but this thread is about teeth.

I actually found that brushing as directed seemed to accelerate the deterioration of my teeth, like you suggest and switched to listerine which does nothing for appearance but actually seemed to preserve my teeth longer than brushing. as a kid EVERY SINGE checkup seemed to require a bloody filling, and the other kids were not having the same experience. 

But sugar consumption has also been a major factor. I stopped taking sugar in my tea in my early thirties, which had a measurable beneficial effect, but even so, nowadays my teeth feel so generally smooth and plaque free in a way I do not remember experiencing before.   

i think it might depend on diet.

if you eat apples that is very acidic and will erode any enamel pretty fast... same as if your a constant daily drinker of lots of fizzy drinks too.

and also my mum was wearing away her enamel and the dentist said the cause was that she was brushing her teeth too hard, so if you brush too hard that will wipe your enamel out.

Apparently some of us have more porous or susceptible  enamel  than others.

Of course, I may turn out to be a freak, and it not work for anyone else, but I kid you not, this has transformed my dental experience, even more than the switch from amalgam to composite fillings did. 

I JUST WISH SOMEONE HAD TOLD ME WHEN I WAS YOUNGER !!! 

I have presentable front teeth thank goodness but I've more fillings towards the back than I should. The unfortunate result of going to the dentists one time in my teens to ask for an overdue check-up and being told 'you're an adult now, don't bother us until you have a problem' I was so embarrassed that Ididn't go for years. Turns out they were the only dentist to ever tell someone that! When I mention it now and again, people can't believe it. They've been going every six months - at theoir dentist's insistence right through their adult lives. 

I do now of course, but there's more damage than there should be - mostly at the back thank goodness!

This wonder drug sounds great, thanks for sharing! Might have to get hold of some myself

i never had this problem as i have the same dentist as what i had when i was a kid as my parents got me nhs dentist ages ago and kept up my appointments with them so im still registered at my dentist ive been at since i was like....4 or 5 or something

YES!! Someone I can share my recent discovery with, who will really benefit. 

I've been a textbook study in tooth decay, which apparently runs down my bloodline, I'm the only one who hasn't got false teeth!

I started using "Better You" branded D3000 Vitamin D oral spray as recommended to help ward off Covid. A side effect I've noted is that my breath started smelling better and the ever present plaque was clearly reduced. It returns if I stop using the spray after about a week, consistently and retreats again (quickly) when I resume using the spray. 

I wish I'd known when I was younger, and cannot believe that every dentist doesn't recommend it!!

(There again healthy teeth don't pay the Mercedes leasing payments, do they? Overly cynical of course, obviously as a group of professionals, they just don't really know about Vitamin D being so useful in this regard...) 

Really sorry to hear you're going through dental pain, shortstuff. There really should be better provision for this than there is, that kind of suffering is something nobody should have to endure for long. I had emergency root canal surgery on Monday, and had I not I would have gone insane by now. But while I was worrying about whether I needed to take some drastic action myself, a friend from this forum kindly sent me a link to self-repair kits that Boots sells - for sealing off decay as a temp patch. Maybe they - the kits- could offer some help?  

Hi, it might be worth looking for a dentist who specialises in treating autistic people. Some NHS hospitals have a unit for anxious / autistic people. Your not alone in having sensory problems around dentists.