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I also wish they'd stop making reference to GB and the flag in the course of all their BS. My Grandfather was buried in the flag for fighting for this country, men like Neil and Boris Johnson co-opt it, and in the process dishonour it. It used to  be a synbol of the stand against oppression and fascism, not for it. 

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At least they're not burning the beautiful flag... which is the favourite activity of the radical left.

Yeah, whereas the right carry that flag with pride. And make Nazi salutes and have white pride tattoos and completely miss the point. Their heroes fought against people like them. 

You might be interested in the article on Nazi propaganda on Wikipedia, how the *** realised that the majority of the population is not intelligent, not capable of forming a cohesive political position but who, provided with easy to remember and regurgitate slogans (think 'Brexit Means Brexit, Build Back Better etc) they can be given an 'opinion' in place of an informed argument, and won't care whether what they are saying is true or not, only that it's their OPINION and if you tell them they're wrong, you're inhibiting their 'freedom of speech' and take offense, double down on their belief rather than acknowledge that they may be wrong. 

An example would be immigration. The right bang on about people coming over here, taking our benefits and abusing our health service. I disagree with that. But, rather than just assume I was right I looked up the facts, and found that, actually, the NHS relies heavily on immigration to provide medical staff and auxillary staff and that it will be MORE reliant on immigration, going forward. Immigrants also use the service less than British-born people. Do they talk about those facts on GB News when they're ranting about the banana boat men or whatever? 

End of discussion.

It's only stressful if you think yours or any other commenters opinion matters a fig in the great scheme of things, which is rarely the case.

Once you realise that fundamental truth, then it's just a game, or an education, or on one's more evil days, somewhere to go and pick an argument with zero consequences.

I like to advise people who are talking about violent rebellion how totally outgunned they are by the super organised well armed people who "govern" us, and propose alternative strategies of assymettric warfare where one does have a snowball in hells chances of actually beating the system, without setting fire to other peoples businesses, or shooting people who apart from their tragically misinformed politics are really just poorschlubs like ourselves.

And example being, if you MUST go and protest in the streets, then you KNOW they'll send out the bobbies in their riot gear, you KNOW they will attack you eventually, so instead of trying to wound them with bricks and petrol bombs, just retreat, emptying a large bag of small spherical objects such as children's marbles on the floor as you do so. Then enjoy the resultant spectacle....

IF the *** gets real and they park a tank at the end of your street, or indeed any other form of mechanical oppression, team one mounts a distraction at the front whilst team two creeps up behind and fills the exhaust with expanding builders foam. The cost to them of recovering that vehicle and it's now helpless crew, then  replacing the exhaust is ENORMOUS compared to the expenditure on a tin of expanding foam.

You attack the mechanisms of oppression, not the idiots who picked the wrong side.

Assymetric warfare waged with kindness and respect to the people is the only way to both win and not have the losers consumed with hatred because your side killed their uncle/father/brother etc. It's also way harder for the opposition to paint you as evil, giving you the moral high ground in the propaganda war. It's notable that the IRA blew up pubs and shot people for decades with no real effect, (apart from producing widows and orphans) but the day they blew up the financial district in London  suddenly the government got mighty keen on negotiating a settlement...

But sadly most people would rather get angry and throw bricks and burn each others cars, than really "take it to the man"... 

sounds stressful. the only time politics is worth debating is when the other side brings a debate with them and not just deflections and asking the same question over that they themselves have no answer to when you use it back on them lol

if the remain side had any argument or debate worth debating, theyd have used it in the referendum and won people over with it. they didnt have any debate though aside from slander and name calling. and now all they have is tears and deflections and hollow questions that have been answered many times over.

at this time, the remain side of this argument is no longer a debate side but instead some form of theocratic brick wall.

You guys do know that there is an actual political "fight club" style site where you can really get into these topics, right?

It's called Zero Hedge, and whilst it isn't quite as wonderfully brutal as it used to be, it is way more suitable a place to be venting and scrapping than this one..

And there's a much wider set of topics to get your teeth into, for the people who like this sort of thing. 

You're simply sounding like a petulant child now.

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You have no idea about which you speak or indeed any kind o reasonable perspective on anything. 

we didnt have free movement in the EU... we was outside the EU free movement zone... and being part of the single market didnt afford us free movement. what the single market is, is to treat all of the EU as if it was one nation when it comes to trade.... this is in part why individual members of the EU cannot trade outside of it, the EU has to trade for them, as that is what the single market is, if we was to be part of the single market we would be giving up our ability to trad ewith anyone at all and giving our trade and fate in the hands of the EU, which is a very bad thing to do when outside of it because they dont care theyd take everything off us for free and bankrupt us... and that is why you dont want to be part of the single market if your not a member of the EU....and even if you are a member of the EU that still puts a knife to your nations throat... a very bad situation to be in.... why should we restrict our trade and make it so the EU has to trade outside for us and for the UK to not be a global trade force and instead the EU to be the face of UK trade in which they make our deals for us whether we like them or not? how is that good? ... thats bad.... thats why we wanted out of the single market... you have all been told lies about what the single market even is. this is what i was getting at with the other guy too, no one seems to understand what the EU even is or how it worked or what any of these terms they bring up even mean.... the single market is very very bad.... why should we want to give up our trade and have the EU make our trade for us and not allow ourselves to trade?

uff, just one question.

How is all this wokery and virtue signalling working out for you? 

What exactly does that actually mean ? Who is it that has you this way ? What do you actually think and feel yourself ?

The Labour Party has been out of power for over a decade and recently suffered its worst election defeat in its history.

Your point being ? 

The Labour Party has been out of power for over a decade and recently suffered its worst election defeat in its history. Apart from a coalition of hard-core trans activists, race-obsessed cosmopolitan avocado-munching hippies; and non-binary safe-space student snowflakes, how many real people with real life struggles does the Left actually represent anymore? Across the free world, Left-wing parties have been decimated politically. 

And the progress made in those years by conservatives, do you wish to name them ? Any of them ? Answers on a postage stamp please ! Do you not remember the austerity of Osbourne and IDS ? Have you forgotten about the disabled people in wheelchairs who had to storm parliament for the first time in history ? 

You have been exposed unless you have any come back of humanity ?

Yes, he was. For almost his entire political life, until he became leader of the Labour Party and had to dumb down his beliefs so as not to offend the woke globalists and student snowflakes in the party. That's why he was missing in action during the referendum.

Jeremy Corbyn is not anti-EU. In fact he's more EU than Boris Johnson. Jeremy wanted us to stay in the Single Market which would have given us free movement with the EU, and Boris wanted us to leave the Single Market.

That was one of the worst pieces of political news of my life, that referendum. In which I didn't even have the vote. Before Hungary, where I live, joined the EU I was third-country alien, just another of them dodgy economic migrants, Immigration was a nightmare.

Why would a country choose to give up all those rights. To lube and work in 27 other countries. Why such dog-in-the-manger narrowness and I tolerance?

Luckily I got dual citizenship. For the time being. 

I have experienced plenty of the belittling and name calling of Brexiters since then, and have wondered at the bitterness behind it. You can't reason with them. Just as you can't for example with Trumpists, who gaslight their hideous causes here, there, everywhere. 

That was one of the worst pieces of political news of my life, that referendum. In which I didn't even have the vote. Before Hungary, where I live, joined the EU I was third-country alien, just another of them dodgy economic migrants, Immigration was a nightmare.

Why would a country choose to give up all those rights. To lube and work in 27 other countries. Why such dog-in-the-manger narrowness and I tolerance?

Luckily I got dual citizenship. For the time being. 

I have experienced plenty of the belittling and name calling of Brexiters since then, and have wondered at the bitterness behind it. You can't reason with them. Just as you can't for example with Trumpists, who gaslight their hideous causes here, there, everywhere. 

End of discussion.