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what human progress has anyone you look up to made? ... absolutely none at all... what human progress has the BBC made? .. none... they have spread hate created wars from hate they spread and cost lives... but your ok with that when its your side and your media, everyone elses has to be mother theresa and have ended world hunger! lmao 

End of discussion.

lmao

I've only got ONE mainstream thinking friend who is able to rationally reply to anything I have to say, without starting to shout or get up in my face for having a differing opinion. ONE!!

It's quite scary to tell the truth, and makes it really hard to solicit an opposing point of view or some facts from people who otherwise are nice and loving human beings from my perspective. At least having read Vance Packard's "The Hidden Persuaders" I understand why they are like that and (((who))) is to blame. 

The triple brackets is used by me to denote the crafty sting pulling manipulators who actually are driving things on the world stage. To quote (or paraphrase) Mr Voltaire, "If you want to know who your real masters are, it is the people who you are not allowed to criticise". Although I am not as sure exactly who those people are as many other people who use the triple brackets, I AM dead certain they exist, and the secrecy and confusion behind which they hide, indicates their true nature.

the bbc does ... usually. Although they often pick a poor spokes person. But I guess thats subjective, the question of who can put forward the better argument.

Nope. I am referring to the ERG, the tory party within the tory party, who are basically pulling all the strings. You know, Rees Smaug, who didn't want to pay taxes to the EU, who is immune, Ali g with all his other cohorts, to the mess Brexit is making to the small entrepreneur on the ground, the little employee who has lost their job because their local factory was forced to close. Be careful what you wish for. Sunderland may well be saying that for example 

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small cartel of super rich

I'm guessing you are referring to The unelected European Commission (which makes all the decisions). It's such a relief to think that we no longer will be forced to accept laws made by a European Commission which we did (and could not) not elect or remove from office. 

It's only stressful if you think yours or any other commenters opinion matters a fig in the great scheme of things, which is rarely the case.

Once you realise that fundamental truth, then it's just a game, or an education, or on one's more evil days, somewhere to go and pick an argument with zero consequences.

I like to advise people who are talking about violent rebellion how totally outgunned they are by the super organised well armed people who "govern" us, and propose alternative strategies of assymettric warfare where one does have a snowball in hells chances of actually beating the system, without setting fire to other peoples businesses, or shooting people who apart from their tragically misinformed politics are really just poorschlubs like ourselves.

And example being, if you MUST go and protest in the streets, then you KNOW they'll send out the bobbies in their riot gear, you KNOW they will attack you eventually, so instead of trying to wound them with bricks and petrol bombs, just retreat, emptying a large bag of small spherical objects such as children's marbles on the floor as you do so. Then enjoy the resultant spectacle....

IF the *** gets real and they park a tank at the end of your street, or indeed any other form of mechanical oppression, team one mounts a distraction at the front whilst team two creeps up behind and fills the exhaust with expanding builders foam. The cost to them of recovering that vehicle and it's now helpless crew, then  replacing the exhaust is ENORMOUS compared to the expenditure on a tin of expanding foam.

You attack the mechanisms of oppression, not the idiots who picked the wrong side.

Assymetric warfare waged with kindness and respect to the people is the only way to both win and not have the losers consumed with hatred because your side killed their uncle/father/brother etc. It's also way harder for the opposition to paint you as evil, giving you the moral high ground in the propaganda war. It's notable that the IRA blew up pubs and shot people for decades with no real effect, (apart from producing widows and orphans) but the day they blew up the financial district in London  suddenly the government got mighty keen on negotiating a settlement...

But sadly most people would rather get angry and throw bricks and burn each others cars, than really "take it to the man"... 

sounds stressful. the only time politics is worth debating is when the other side brings a debate with them and not just deflections and asking the same question over that they themselves have no answer to when you use it back on them lol

if the remain side had any argument or debate worth debating, theyd have used it in the referendum and won people over with it. they didnt have any debate though aside from slander and name calling. and now all they have is tears and deflections and hollow questions that have been answered many times over.

at this time, the remain side of this argument is no longer a debate side but instead some form of theocratic brick wall.

You guys do know that there is an actual political "fight club" style site where you can really get into these topics, right?

It's called Zero Hedge, and whilst it isn't quite as wonderfully brutal as it used to be, it is way more suitable a place to be venting and scrapping than this one..

And there's a much wider set of topics to get your teeth into, for the people who like this sort of thing. 

You're simply sounding like a petulant child now.

I wish you would stop insinuating that people are mentally ill because they have a different opinion to you. You've done this multiple times now and apart from being a really negative way to use mental ill health, it's also equally nasty to diagnose others. 

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Legislation to allow same-sex marriage in England and Wales was passed by the Parliament of the United Kingdom in July 2013 and took effect on 13 March 2014. The first same-sex marriages took place on 29 March 2014.

You have no idea about which you speak or indeed any kind o reasonable perspective on anything. 

why dont you give us any facts? all you have done is ask for things and we gave them then you cried like a little baby and asked for them again.... but yet we ask you for these very same things back and you keep ignoring because you dont have any answer where as we do... and that is why your side lost.... you need a answer, we had answers, you cried and screamed.... we asked you the same questions in return and you had no answer at all and ignored and continued to fire questions we already answered back... this is why your side lost on this thing...

and yeah so you agree thats capitalism, but capitalism needs to change and is bad right? you guys supposed to be socialist.... but yet you voted remain because the big bankers told you so and the government told you to vote remain to protect the economy, oh how very capitalist of you! lol you was supposed to be socialist though? .... what the hell happened to the left! lmao ...if you was true socialist youd have voted brexit because the banks told you to vote remain and the tories told you to vote remain for "muh economy!" lol if you was true socialist youd have told them to hell with their economy and voted for brexit for its the only big change and disruption wed ever be able to do and we certainly need a fecking big shakeup didnt we? socialism is supposed to be all about change..... but you who claim to be socialist opposed the change and voted for the economy and bankers instead.... i feel you lot should give up the title of socialist now for your not that, you are literal capitalist tories who were too frightened of change. you voted for status quo and bankers lol while we brexiteers voted for change and a shake up and were pissed at how things are and grasped at any change to shake the pot. for that is true socialism, to seek change, to use disgruntled peasants and use how *** life is for us to attain any change.

ow is all this anti-Brexit, identity politics and woke cancel culture working out for you?  

What ? 

2010
The election resulted in a large swing to the Conservative Party similar to that seen in 1979.  The Labour Party lost its 66-seat majority and ended up with 258 seats, bringing to an end to the short stay in office of Prime Minister, Gordon Brown.

So what ? What propaganda where you reading at the time ? 

2015 
The Labour Party, now led by Ed Miliband, incurred a net loss of another 26 seats to return just 232 MPs. This was its lowest seat tally since the 1987 General Election. 

What is your point ? 

2017
The Labour Party under the deeply unpopular Jeremy Corbyn managed to increase its share of the vote by only 1% against the most unpopular Prime Minister in modern times, Theresa May. It ended up picking up 20 extra seats, leaving it with with 262 MPs.

What is your point ?

2019
Two years later, The Labour Party lost another 20 seats bringing its sitting MPs down to a record low of 202, its lowest number and proportion of seats since 1935. 

Still struggling to understand your point?

As of 2021, The Labour Party has lost 4 General Elections and by the time of the next General Election in 2024 will have been out of Government for 14 years.

Still not getting your point ?

How is all this anti-Brexit, identity politics and woke cancel culture working out for you?  

How is all this anti-Brexit, identity politics and woke cancel culture working out for you?  

You seem to be promoting all this culture, woke or whatever.

I thought we would be discussing media, journalism and such things on this thread but apparently not  it seems ? You started the thread so what is your advice or take on the subject you started on ? I haven't heard anything on that ?