Autism Friendships

Yeah I know what you mean, I also love history. Wildlife and aviation are also good topics for me. I also like reading about science and maths. I've just started reading a fictionalised account of the war of the roses. Which is so enjoyable. What I've done is immerse myself in my interests. I've tried to be a norm, but now it's time for me to enjoy myself. And if that's reading for an hour every night then so be it. 

Fictionalised counts can be interesting - I often go over on my head how things might have turned out if you tweak ineveff vs ent in history. So what historical eras interest you most? 

At the moment it's the whole French revolution and napoleon era. Yeah have you seen the man in the high tower TV series that's very interesting?

There's so many times in history that could've changed quite easily. 

Well count me out. I've been on less aggressive opposing teams football forums (the irony of the title) and I apologise to Anthony as it was you who made the belittling comment about me reading some books (I worked bleedin hard to get that A-Level).. Best of luck.

OK, why don't we all come back tomorrow and have a proper debate then? I think that would be a much better idea. 

I’m just going to leave this forum I think. I’m done. Take care guys! 

None of it’s made up.

Point 1 is factually accurate - check it. I made no comment about you and books and your historical wasn’t belittled. 

Point 2 is factually accurate - see the post where you clearly imply you know more than others. For clarity I don’t consider myself better or worse than you when it comes to history. I think you know stuff I don’t and I’d hope the same is true of me. 

Point 3 is factually - I welcomed historical input, I did agree with you on 19th century influence - both facts. I also do find you draining - subjective but you can take is as a factual representation of my opinion.

So where’s the half I’m making up? I’ll repeat the key point in making:

Your historical views are welcomed by me.  your attitude towards others is where my issue is.

On that note this ‘discussion’ has no benefit for you or I. I’m sure like me you have better things to do - so let’s just agree that we clearly don’t get on very well, we both have interesting historical views and that we need to draw a line under this. 

You're making half of that up. I never once said I was superior to you. But I have spent lots of hours discussing this topic with a friend who indeed does have a Ph.D in history and I thought I'd contribute my opinions based on what I knew from final year project on European expansion and colonialism....clearly it wasn't welcome...I assumed you all knew what a forum was.

1. I’ve made no comment about you and books - please stop making false assertions. I did not belittle you at any point before you started bullying Rashford.so get your facts straight! 
2. You very clearly made the point that you feel you are more intelligent than others.
3. YET AGAIN - my issue is not your opinions - it’s you. If you actually read the thread I agreed with you about the 19th century’s influence. I don’t agree with all you’ve said, equally some I feel is valid. Things only got heated from my end when you started beating on about your intelligence being greater than anyone else’s. I 

There you go......of course I don't.....As I say, obnoxious.

No, my point was I have a different opinion to you based on what I've read on a set of events that led up to it and you both just went off on one, made belittling comments about me reading some books and have just gone off on one.

Yeah  we get it - your view was that you are more intelligent than anyone else. Point noted!

I gave my view, as should be welcomed on a thread where people don't go mad when someone disagrees and repeatedly says "it's basically chaos theory" and that anything can happen....just obnoxious.

Ha "ill-researched points"...read your thread. So much hatred. I've asked you to calm down several times....why get so upset? Yup, fed up with dealing with people who go OTT over some thread too cheers.

Reality? Ha... sure, ok bud! Given you claim to be so intellectual, you are off the mark- the issue isn’t your ill researched points, it’s not the fact you think an a-level constitutes an in-depth educational and knowledge base (hell why do historians get masters and PhDs when all they need is an a-level)... the problem is none of this - it’s you and your persistent bad attitude, constant attempts to bully and belittle others and generally try to bring others down. I actually welcomed your input to the discussion I just object to how you treat others.

On that note I’m done here - The Last Leg is on and I’m not willing to expend any further effort on dealing with you.

Everyone has a view and are entitled to one. You made a childish comment about child rapists and then some snarky comment about "someone reading some books"...So I'm childish? I see, it's basically a "I'm right thread" and if I'm not right then it's ruined...got ya.

Ah, so when someone points out the reality of points made...you pick up your toys and go into a strop.

Daz, that’s just low and childish pulling the “I’m smarter than you” card. You may think you know everything and probably think it’s ok to attack anyone and everyone’s views because you have some kind of superiority complex going on and you know what - do as you please, I don’t know you and truthfully have no desire to change that - I’m sure this feeling is reciprocated also.

Rashford was laying down a hypothetical which is historically plausible. Before you belittle my calling it plausible, yes I too have an A level in history (it’s one of 7 A levels I have), I’m working towards a degree in the subject and have done more hours of research in topics of history than I care to count. I’m not claiming this makes me more intelligent as I believe everyone brings their own strengths anon opinions to a discussion and we can all learn from one another.

I’m done with this debate - thank you for killing what could haven been an interesting discussion Daz. 

Oh wow you're so clever correcting people on a discussion board, you must be so proud of yourself. Next time I have a hypothetical historic thought please can I run it by you as you're such an expert. This was a nice conversation and you've ruined it thanks a lot! 

Again, calm down. That's the point of a hypothetical discussion; there's always going to be someone that knows a bit more than you about the topic. and it's a modern history A-level thanks.

What are you talking about? This is a hypothetical discussion. This isn't as essay about the issues. It's an opinion on a discussion board. We'll done you've obviously read some books on the subject. 

What are you talking about? This is a hypothetical discussion. This isn't as essay about the issues. It's an opinion on a discussion board. We'll done you've obviously read some books on the subject. 

Thank you Plastic. I do often find it very difficult to let go of things but I will stop now.

Then why do you feel the need to reply?      People have called me all sorts of things on here - it's part of being on a forum - disagreements happen - but it's not worth chasing it down - let it die on its own.

Also, selfishly, these long complicated threads are a pain to read and take ages to load so I lose interest in where it gets to. 

I'm not. I've asked him to but he's making up stuff about me calling him a facist and a communist....I asked for a line to be drawn but he's popped up again.

Seriously, why are you all still stirring this? - let it go.

I told you that after one of you two wrote "oh look, he's read some books" and that offended me. I didn't call you a facist. Not once nor a communist...not once either. But you ask me to put myself in the viewpoint of others.....you are aware that's a pretty tough thing for people with autism to do right? I'm just thinking logically; you just can't back from capital punishment. That's just my view and overwhelmingly the view of the non-right wing society as whole. I just find anyone who supports people who's first thought is to strip the vulnerable of support quite distasteful.

It clearly was, you repeatedly told me you had an a level in history. You claimed you knew more than me about my own hypothetical scenario. You called me a fascist and a communist and other things because I don't believe in the same things as you. So what if I think capital punishment should be reintroduced in the most extreme circumstances. It doesn't mean you should mock me and my political viewpoints. 

This is going around in circles. Talking down to you was never my intention but clearly you've interpreted it as such. We've all got different viewpoints, I would struggle to understand why such a learned gentleman would still believe in capital punishment and yes, you were talking hypothetically which, yes, would not discount any situation and perhaps I was putting too much of an emphasis on things I found and still find of particular interest. I am fascinated by anything after the Berlin conference which calved up Africa because the markets in Europe were down but as plastic says, line drawn, I'm going to get on with my pencil portraits.

Wow yeah you're such an expert on everything you're definitely right. I'm so offended you'd say this, the autism spectrum covers so many people. You of all people should know this 

Oh thanks, if you purchase me a ticket I'd gladly get as far away from you as possible. 

Just a note, I haven't discussed my view on history. What my friend and I were talking about was fictionalised accounts of history. And we were discussing hypothetical scenarios. You've completely missed the point. You were talking down to me, you thought because you have a history a level my thoughts on a hypothetical scenario were incorrect. You are entitled to your opinion, but so am I. Now that is really fascist, not being allowed to have an opinion. 

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I think Rashford is an imposter....? Not even ASD? Just a fake trolling kid. 

It's fine to have strong opinions but do you really need to keep attacking 24hrs later?     Let it go......

I mentioned a few days ago - when you come up against people with 180 degree opposite opinions on the interwebs, just let the thread die on its own - it's not worth the fight.    It's no reason to walk away from the forum - there's lots of more useful threads on here.

I just find it interesting that autistic people often have a tough time interpreting what people say at the best of times but they both (Autism friendships in action I suppose) seem incredibly quick to interpret what I've said as some sense of superiority. I don't mention my qualifications in my profile, I don't mention them as they're not relevant.....except when challenged but yep. Strange.

I think Rashford is an imposter....? Not even ASD? Just a fake trolling kid. 

I think you should be locked up - in a Prison somewhere in the devoloping world, say, Iran. Then you'll see youre own BS in action. 

Problem is - these kids only know hate and anger. It is programmed into them by algorithm bias and semiosis. By their own generation of controllers - the millenials who wrote these algorithm also only know hate and anger. They are the puppet masters in todays platos cave and the cave dwellers - the millenials brought up by the puppet algorithms, only see shadows projected on the wall they are chained infront of. 

They think they are making their own decisions and choices but they cant - because their minds have been hacked. 

Well, I've asked the NAS to delete my profile as clearly these two are perfectly happy to insult someone else but get upset if someone says something they disagree with. I was never knowingly talking down to anyone. It looks to me like someone is obsessed with his view of history and hates to be challenged on it....that's not really particularly academic. But either way, they've both reported me and I've just told those checking it to look at the logs to see I didn't throw any personal insults like "ooohh P.hd friend" or "looks like he's read some books". I assumed this was a support forum for people diagnosed with autism and not some place to have a slanging match.

Hey guys

Whilst I'm enjoying the back-n-forth, this level of bashing each other is best done in a pub, face to face with a beer when I think you'd take it much lighter and more humorously with each other - in typed words on a forum, it can be taken as quite nasty.   

Just sayin'...

You're a hippie, just let everyone free from the prisons, that's what you'll be saying next. 

Nonsense, absolute nonsense! Are you high? Oh dear I bet you're a remainer still bitter that we've left the EU. Leaving the EU makes me, and many others financially better off, so I'm happy about it.

Remainers like you don't realise that people wanted to leave the EU a long time ago. The wasn't an overnight thing where we followed Farage because of a few things he said. My family would often talk about the mismanaged EU budget, wasting our contributions on huge buildings in Brussels. The ECJ, which overrides UK law, couldn't let us set our own laws. And lastly there were unelected officials in charge of the whole parliament. You talk about fascism and communism, the EU isn't far away from either of these.