Unsure of who is a troll and who isn't?

Who is and who isn't?  Apparently my best days are behind me though! Haha. You're telling me!

  • I don't like him either. Many of the older generation appear to prefer the world his ideas have created though.

    I remember a conversation with my late dad where he prefered today's world to the one prior to 1979 also.  Maybe i am a dewy eyed young romantic or something.

    Being on Social Security concentrates your mind against this government too.  I'm not sure those without direct experience of the policies of people like Ian Duncan Smith fully understand their horror.  I am not going to be calling him Sir- despite his knighthood.

  • I've always had the impression that Hayek was a bit of a knobhead. Loads of oh-so clever ideas, which have really achieved very little.

  • I'll give you the benefit of the the doubt on this one, As far as I am concerned right now, you ARE a functional human being; albeit that you might function a bit differently from your sadistic detractors.

    Personal projects do not have to be monolithic, just stuff that makes you feel comfortable. So I suppose a 'project' could be as simple as a stim. Some of my projects would undoubtedly draw widespread disdain if I were ever open about them with the general public. I'll be open with them when they ever show any interest. if they don't, never mind!. I'm a recluse myself. As I said somewhere else on this forum today, parties (of all types and persuasions) can be intensely lonely places. Forget placing yourself further down the spectrum; I doubt we realistically think of  'up' and 'down' with the spectrum, anyway. People are always capable of rising above deliberate put-downs.

  • Think of your recoil as actually being a very human thing to do. Part of the problem with political people is that they are never really happy unless they are scoring points off of others, and making others feel ill at ease with themselves. It is a form of sadism really. Our inglorious Prime Minister is a prime example of such petty-mindedness.

    Rather than recoil though, I would suggest you really need to avoid. That might seem rather anti-social, but there really is no point in becoming the victim of people who love nothing more than to humiliate others. Starve them of opportunities for attention-seeking! You can then do things the way you want to do them, when they are not on your case. You can still listen to the banter, but avoid reacting. (It might even be quite informative.) And you are then not automatically polluted by their pollution. You can always conserve your unique viewpoint until you run up against people who are at least capable of displaying some empathy.

    In fairness, there are actually quite a few such constructive minds at work on this forum. But we all occasionally need some F2F contact with like-minded people. If I were in the UK, I would definitely have gone looking for some sort of support network by now. Nothing like that exists here.

  • I love to hide from the world.  Bloody world :)

  • As long as I can hide until I'm drooling and peeing my pants, I don't mind.  Smiley

  • Politics will find you in the end. You cannot escape it's evil grasp. :)

  • I suspect we're probably in agreement over most issues - I believe that certain services should be nationalised - like railways, health, power, water etc. - but only if they are run efficiently with proper costing and management structure.

    My distrust of politics is why I want to move to the countryside and disappear off the radar - it's a simpler life.

  • Trump definitely qualifies but i think Plastic would oppose this description of him.  So even that's contentious. In politics everything is contentious so  it would be very hard to follow with only a rudimentary knowledge of the subject. 

  • Well i'm opposed to both the EU and privatization. That's my good faith position. I didn't vote Conservative because they are in opposed to the former but in favour of the latter.  Would have voted leave again in a second referendum.  Wish Cameron had never held the first just because i'm sick of the issue. haha

  • I don't trust any of them - it takes measurement of their actions to make decisions.

  • Dare I ask, combining this thread of conversation with the original question posted by the OP. Who is the actual troll in current politics? Genuine question, I don’t follow politics.

  • I'm very anti-EU - but our politicians love it for their gravy train.

  • Yes but you seemed to be blaming the EU for privatization.  Which makes me think you were opposed to it?   Are you in favour of it now?

  • There's nothing wrong with capitalism - it's been the natural way all over the world for thousands of years - the problem is when governments stuck their greedy paws in and skew the market - that's when it all goes wrong.      And I'd disagree with you about our politicians making decisions - they've basically done nothing over the last 30 years except blatant cronyism giving grossly overpaid jobs and contracts to their mates.     Democracy in this country is a pantomime - the Brexit vote proved that with 'Call me Dave's' assertion of immediately leading us out of the EU if we voted that way - even though all his polls and project fear made him certain of a stay vote.

  • This I agree and then offensive users could be warned and then blocked

  • You know who else was an advocate of Privatization and deregulation? Friedrich Hayek who wrote the Road To Serfdom.  The post 1979 Tories are in thrall to markets and capital and continue to be so. If you're expecting patrician centrism from them you may have a bit of a wait.   I think they may turn the UK into a even more Hobbesian lawless place.  Leading Tories are on record as admiring Singapore for example.  I'm not a big fan of the EU and it's institutions but you can't put everything that's happened since our membership down to them.  Our own politicians have taken decisions too.

  • My projects? You make me sound like a functional human being! haha

    No projects here.  I'm probably further down the spectrum than i appear.

    I can prattle on for days about politics though. To my admittedly small audience.  Was an activist when younger but it's just too stressful for me to continue with that.  The entire outside world has too many stressors and hurtful experiences for me to abide. So here i am a recluse.  Also very lonely.

  • This is their big opportunity to do something constructive for a change.

    I totally agree - Boris *could* be great - if he takes the right path of 'Make Britain Great Again'.    The EU is a bloated, undemocratic failure - and it's going to financially ruin all the member states as it gets even more corrupt.      It's plan of importing another 139M people from the worst parts of the world 'to dilute opposition to the EU' will end very badly - but their idea is to 'rebuild from the ashes' of the collapsed states.   

    The USA is fighting for its life - the Dems are now The Mob (look at links to Al Capone via Saul Alinsky and Hilary) and Trump/Republicans are effectively representing the businesses that are shaken down by the Mob.   You might not like Trump, but the Dems intend to flood the country with illegals  - especially in swing states - to make it a one-party state forever - which will then implode.

    Look at California and New York - only 20 years ago were relatively safe and clean - but I wouldn't go there now thanks to the Dems.

    California is banning paper cups in restaurants as a priority - but flushing millions of used needles into the sea every day.   Almost every roadside verge now has homeless people living on it.    You will be fined if your dog messes on the pavement - but it's ok for people so dump in supermarket aisles.  

    Those states are being driven into the ground for the sake of Democrat votes.

  • No universal panacea here towards acquiring 'better' obsessions. Just the very general idea that we are always better off self-making the means of our own survival; even though our creativity may not look that efficient and beautiful by other people's fashion-conscious standards. They can shove off, anyway! I suppose that would make me some sort of anarchist by party political standards; but then they would say that, wouldn't they? I'm sure you already have plenty of your own obsessions to work on. But there are others out there who will be prepared to co-operate with your projects; just don't expect their involvement to last for ever. I am very alone really, but I'm so used to it that I try not to spend too much time trying to be a lying 'populist' git just to look good with others.