School invoicing for broken ipad ? fair or not

Dear all

I just want to test the waters with this one. My 6 year old son is in mainstream school with an EHCP and 1:1. He has profound sensory issues and when dysregulated can bite done on hard objects. This rarely happens and has not happened in school until last week, when he bit down on an ipad. The response of school is to invoice us for the cost of replacing. Is this reasonable. To me it feels inherently unfair as the damage was not intentional and a direct result of his dysregulation. Furthermore I do not have an understanding of what happened before to lead to this outcome?? 

I have told the school that I think an investigation of what happened should be there immediate course of action rather than asking for money. They disagree.

Any thoughts welcome..

Thank you

Parents
  • The answer to this is yes.

    There are times when I believe that if the cost of damage to public sector property is not paid then it can be slapped onto income tax or benefits.

    You wouldn't believe how many expensive medical devices are damaged by patients in hospitals, and under (outdated?) NHS policy it's the taxpayer who pays to repair the damage rather than the patient.

    BTW. I don't pay charges for parking tickets issued by councils, APCOA etc. or take any notice of letters issued by debt collectors or fake solicitors on their behalf.

  • Hmm - so you ignore letter from debt collectors? you know they changed the law a few years ago regards to private parking don't you? i.e. you can't ignore them any more?

    Don't you ever watch that TV programme "Can't pay or we'll take it away". Sorry but someone is going to get a court order like they do, and remove good from your house if you don't pay.

  • I'm sure only high Court bailiffs can enter your property without you, normal bailiffs can if you have ever allowed them access even stepping in the door counts. But they can remove goods from outside ie cars unless they are kept in locked garage or other private property that they don't have consent to enter. ( this came from cab and was verified by bailiffs that have been threatening to take my stuff for 7 years) they got nothing and passed debt back to the originator in my case council tax. 

  • Mine was executive function issues that lead to burn out which meant I couldn’t even open a bill. It doesn’t matter why a person can’t pay their bills, it most likely means they need some support, that’s all. I’m getting help through autism plus with managing executive functioning etc so I can learn to pay my bills etc. It doesn’t matter why we can’t manage such things without help, there’s no shame. When I work I earn good money but that doesn’t make it any easier for me to manage money and activities of daily living, such as eating and drinking. They’re just skills I haven’t learned yet, for me to sustain long term independence, I’m not ashamed of that and I’m now learning them, slowly, one step at a time. 

  • Not being able to financially isn't the same as executive functioning issues.

  • I wasn’t paying my bills for over a year and only partially for a year, but I don’t find the question insulting. I thought it was a logical question to ask. There’s no shame in not paying your bills and in fact it turns out, that loads of people apparently struggle at some point in their lives. Step change and citizens advice who have been helping me say that there are thousands of people in my situation for a whole host of reasons. So don’t feel bad if you can’t pay your bills some times.

  • On a site for autistic people that may have problems with executive functioning (like I do, despite having a high IQ and degree), I find that question a bit insulting. 

  • People have debt because they don't have the money to pay ours was caused by a Switch between full benefits and work they took us to court for it prior to decision being made on benefit claim and despite being entitled to 9 months of the year with full benefits they billed us for the lot and sent it straight to bailiffs who would not accept payment plans so they got nothing. Now the council has it again we are paying. Despite it leaving me with nothing. 

  • Isn't it just easier to pay your debts or at least get something sorted rather than doing it like this?

    So why didnt you pay your council tax?

Reply Children
  • Mine was executive function issues that lead to burn out which meant I couldn’t even open a bill. It doesn’t matter why a person can’t pay their bills, it most likely means they need some support, that’s all. I’m getting help through autism plus with managing executive functioning etc so I can learn to pay my bills etc. It doesn’t matter why we can’t manage such things without help, there’s no shame. When I work I earn good money but that doesn’t make it any easier for me to manage money and activities of daily living, such as eating and drinking. They’re just skills I haven’t learned yet, for me to sustain long term independence, I’m not ashamed of that and I’m now learning them, slowly, one step at a time. 

  • Not being able to financially isn't the same as executive functioning issues.

  • I wasn’t paying my bills for over a year and only partially for a year, but I don’t find the question insulting. I thought it was a logical question to ask. There’s no shame in not paying your bills and in fact it turns out, that loads of people apparently struggle at some point in their lives. Step change and citizens advice who have been helping me say that there are thousands of people in my situation for a whole host of reasons. So don’t feel bad if you can’t pay your bills some times.

  • On a site for autistic people that may have problems with executive functioning (like I do, despite having a high IQ and degree), I find that question a bit insulting. 

  • People have debt because they don't have the money to pay ours was caused by a Switch between full benefits and work they took us to court for it prior to decision being made on benefit claim and despite being entitled to 9 months of the year with full benefits they billed us for the lot and sent it straight to bailiffs who would not accept payment plans so they got nothing. Now the council has it again we are paying. Despite it leaving me with nothing.