Black Lives Matter Campaign

I know that in the current climate, that this subject is delicate and controversial overall. However, does anyone else feel that the "Black Lives Matter Campaign" has gone too far? I think that it should be "ALL Lives Matter".

Voice actors from many popular animated series are stepping down from their roles because "They are considered racist".

The MINORITY (I add in capital letters) of the black ethnicity of the population, seem to be using it as an excuse to commit acts of extreme public disorder and destruction of property for no good reason.

I can remember, as a small child, watching Tom and Jerry cartoons that had the character of Mammy Two Shoes. Of course, I was only about 6 at the time, and I was unaware of the subject of racism. I also, currently, watch classic British sitcoms such as "Love Thy Neighbour", Til' Death us Do Part", "In Sickness and In Health" among others, which WOULD NOT be shown today. I don't think that sitcoms such as this were ever meant to be offensive. They were simply meant to be funny. Many members of the cast of these sitcoms that were enemies ON-SCREEN, were actually best friends OFF-SCREEN. 

The American group "The Dixie Chicks" have changed their name.

The USA can't escape their historical connection to the Triangular Trade, and their Confederate history any more than the UK can. It wasn't a good period in either nations histories. However, we can take a lesson from those that are depicted in statues and other works of art, in the manner that "These people did this, don't make their mistakes".

I am a descendant of the generation of the "Baby-Boomers" that would often be considered to be racist. However, my parents don't care about a person's ethnicity, as long as THEY are treated with the same respect and dignity that they would give anyone else.

What are your views?

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  • BLM has NOTHING to do with skin colour or black lives - it's a well funded Marxist political group working to divide & conquer to overthrow governments.      While they are burning and destroying everything to do with a country's culture and history, you don't hear a thing from them about the 103 black people shot by other black people last weekend in Chicago - a Democrat-run  'gun free zone'. 

    The typical BLM supporter is totally clueless and insulated from the real world and living in their mommy's basement.    They have no idea about the true intentions of the group - they are 'useful idiots'.    Same goes for Sunrise, Antifa, Momentum etc. - pathetic trouble makers with i-phones.   

    The whole thing is a scam for weak minded, self-loathing white liberals to feel good about 'sticking it to the man' while patronisingly having the racism and bigotry of low expectations of black people.     The 'liberals' are the most illiberal people on the planet.    

    And they are so lacking in self awareness that they can't even see it.

    What's hilarious is in the USA, the Democrats were the original slave owners and since the 1960s, through destructive social programs, they've managed to keep the black people in the poor neighbourhoods and instead of farming cotton, they are farming them for their votes.      And they vote for them.   

    You'll notice that the only cities burning are Democrat run, Democrat governors, mayors, chief of police etc. - and have been for decades - so how come they claim there's so much racism there.      Zero critical thinking.

    This bunch come out of the woodwork every 4 years to sway US elections - and Soros is getting desperate to get a return on all the money he's invested in trying to destroy the West..

    All the tactics they use are straight from the 'Rules for Radicals' by Saul Alinsky (a Chicago gangster and Hilary Clinton's hero).

  • Is it your claim then that George Soros is funding BLM and that George Soros is part of a Marxist Plot? Can i ask you first for the evidence of his funding of them.  I'm also interested in the idea that Soros may subscribe to the economic and/ or political theories of  Karl Marx. What would be the evidential basis for that?

  • There has already been links to certain people who gain from BLM. BLM in my opinion is a smoke screen. Do your own research, not just mainstream media and Facebook. Look into where blm money goes on the very platform they use. You may be suprised

  • Climate changes. Constantly. It has changed many times before and during our short spell on the planet, and it will change many times more long after we, and our and plastic carrier bags, have gone. 

  • Saying - do you believe in climate change is late saying - do you believe in clouds... Climate is a human construct. Climate Change is a slogan - a shadow projected on the wall of Platos Cave by the puppet masters.

  • I really like Priti Patel, she seems to get things done. Yes Biden needs to retire already, he forgets what he's saying half the time. I forgot to add, where are BLM on the current slave trade in Libya? That was bought up in conversation with my aquantance from Nigeria. We're freaking out about history here but whats happening with the slave trade currently? I havent followed that as such so maybe their working on it, we can only hope

  • That is the problem Plastic, your assumption that everyone that disagrees with you is 'not knowing' and that you are somehow superior because of the 'gifts' you allude to earlier, able to understand 'reality' in a way that us mere mortals cannot.  When, in fact, you have no idea how informed people are, not the people on this board and certainly not the entirety of the UK population.  Your assumption that you are  better placed to see the 'truth' than anyone else because of your superior capabilities is what is so irksome. Now you claim victimhood and that you are being 'policed'; you feel it is fair game to spout the long list of insults that I quoted earlier, claim that everyone who disagrees with you is stupid, but anyone that calls you out on your behaviour is policing you rather than having a legitimate reaction to your behaviour and attitudes. Whilst you have the right to use whatever language you like, those on the receiving end also have every right to think that your behaviour is unpleasant and to give voice to that view. 

    My views on BLM may surprise you or they may not. I don't feel the organisation is helpful and uses a legitimate concern regarding the rights of black people in America to push a particularly divisive agenda, although I have sympathy for the movement - I feel this is an important distinction.  Whilst the issue of racial discrimination is obviously important, and racism should be challenged always, I feel that the bigger issue is deprivation and it is one that isn't being addressed adequately by the current movement.  Deprivation, in my view, is the underpinning driver of inequality experienced by different communities. Deprivation in the UK disproportionately affects some ethnic minorities because of historical inequalities but it also impacts white working-class communities, particularly where manufacturing industries have been decimated; the communities affected experience very similar issues in regards to health and educational inequalities, overrepresentation in the criminal justice system and long-term unemployment, irrespective of race.  Viewing everything through the lens of race in that context is not very helpful when seeking to alleviate the suffering of communities and can sow division as we have witnessed at times on this thread.  We see this in the community in which I live with the attitudes towards immigrant communities - the issue if framed as us vs. them, 'they are taking our jobs', when the real issue is the transformation of the UK into a service-based economy that leaves too many people with alternative skills fighting each other for the few other jobs left. It's not an issue of race, it's an issue of macroeconomics. 

  • Aaaah - word police - 'ignorant' - not knowing - missing of data - or what word am I allowed to use?     How about 'somewhat lacking in the nuances of deep level American politics?

    If you look to take 'best-fit descriptions' as insults then I REALLY can't be bothered.

    What are your views on BLM?    

  • Twice now In this thread you have been pulled up on the insulting language you use to describe others who dare to have a differing political opinion and yet you refuse to examine why people may take issue with it.

    Being concise does not necessitate the use of insults to describe people who do not share your views. Yet again you assume that people who do not agree with you are ignorant, this time the majority of the population of the UK no less, and have failed to do ‘basic’ research rather accept that they may well be perfectly well-informed and simply think that you are wrong and your sources unreliable. Can you not see how insulting it is of you to suggest that British people simply do not know what they support and need your guidance to help navigate them past their own ignorance? 

  • If you take words out of context then feel free to spin whatever angle you *think* I'm trying to make - 'useful idiots' is a political term (look it up) - suckers - referring to the US police being double crossed by their management - racist and bigoted - yes - people who think one 'colour' is more important than another - clueless - people who have no clue??        Do you think someone pretending to support BLM by taking a knee is an honest person?

    I accept that I use blunt words - I apologise if people feel the need for kid gloves - but that's mainly because to say it in a *flowery way* would take half a page to explain each point - and I really can't be bothered putting that much effort into an online forum.

    It's very easy to poke at me - I wear my views on my sleeve and have nothing to hide - however I do wonder about the snipers in the background........   Feel free to shoot.

    Here's Candace Owens talking to KingFace about what is really wrong with BLM.- well worth watching.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n78nFzjzja0

    People in the UK are largely ignorant of the truth - I just wish that they did some basic research.

    Anyway, if people still do not understand what BLM is really all about - then watch this:

    **warning** - very strong blunt language ***.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgkdpQhkoXU

    When people awaken to the obscene levels of manipulation being fed to them by CNN, BBC, MSNBC, Bloomberg, Washington Post, New York Times etc. they will be horrified to the extent of the lies.

  • Plastic. I just want to draw your attention to the following-  In this thread you have referred to people that do not share your views as:

    Clueless

    insulated from the real world

    living in their mommy's basement

    'useful idiots'

    pathetic trouble makers

    weak minded, self-loathing white liberals

    guilt-ridden white liberals

    closed to the reality

    racist

    hippy-trippy child-like

    deluded

    stupid

    racist and bigoted

    weak

    grown up children

    mindless

    no character and is untrustworthy

    Suckers

    unthinking.

    By contrast, you refer to yourself as:

    I'm Aspie with an eidetic memory - I absorb data on a scale you wouldn't believe.

    my magic Aspie ability is being able to sift & sort it all to work out the reality.

    Whether your intention or not, it reads as an arrogance that is extremely unpleasant to people attempting to present a different view. As such, I will not be engaging in debate with you seeing as you clearly have such a low opinion of people, such as myself, who do not share your political views. 

  • Yes - our aspie 'we must find out every detail about this subject' works well for model trains and aeroplanes - but when we observe the political games of the NT world it's frightening - all that data just shows how nasty people really are.       I used to believe people were naturally good - but not any more.   Disappointed

    I'm hoping that Boris just has his hands tied until we are actually completely free of the EU at the end of the year - and all this violence appears to be sponsored by left wing politicians - and Europe.      I see that Boris' team is already starting to dismantle the obstructive civil service - put in place and massively expanded by Tony Blair to tie the hands of future Tory governments - same as Obama did in the US - weaponised government.   It's why the media went after Cummings so doggedly - same with Priti Patel - they want to destroy them personally before they are able to clean house and bring down the socialist monolith of the civil service.    The creation of the D10 shows promise.     China is too big and there's lots of crooked politicians on their payroll - like Biden..

    Trump 'should' easily win on November unless the Democrats force postal voting - I'm really worried.     It's why they are keeping the covid narrative in the news - even though the CDC has downgraded it to just another flu.    Lots of fear-mongering about infections - but hiding the fact that they are testing more - and most people found positive didn't even know they had it - and they are saying that for every positive test, they add 15 more people to the figures because they assume more are infected.    It's all so fake.    

    Biden is just a senile figurehead - you can guarantee that Hilary will be his VP - parachuted in at the last second to avoid any debates or scrutiny - the DNC changes its own rules when it suites them..

  • oh plastic we agree again. My aspie brain gets fixated and I read everything I can good and bad to try and work it out. My memory isn't as crisp as yours however sadly

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  • I really like Priti Patel, she seems to get things done. Yes Biden needs to retire already, he forgets what he's saying half the time. I forgot to add, where are BLM on the current slave trade in Libya? That was bought up in conversation with my aquantance from Nigeria. We're freaking out about history here but whats happening with the slave trade currently? I havent followed that as such so maybe their working on it, we can only hope

  • Yes - our aspie 'we must find out every detail about this subject' works well for model trains and aeroplanes - but when we observe the political games of the NT world it's frightening - all that data just shows how nasty people really are.       I used to believe people were naturally good - but not any more.   Disappointed

    I'm hoping that Boris just has his hands tied until we are actually completely free of the EU at the end of the year - and all this violence appears to be sponsored by left wing politicians - and Europe.      I see that Boris' team is already starting to dismantle the obstructive civil service - put in place and massively expanded by Tony Blair to tie the hands of future Tory governments - same as Obama did in the US - weaponised government.   It's why the media went after Cummings so doggedly - same with Priti Patel - they want to destroy them personally before they are able to clean house and bring down the socialist monolith of the civil service.    The creation of the D10 shows promise.     China is too big and there's lots of crooked politicians on their payroll - like Biden..

    Trump 'should' easily win on November unless the Democrats force postal voting - I'm really worried.     It's why they are keeping the covid narrative in the news - even though the CDC has downgraded it to just another flu.    Lots of fear-mongering about infections - but hiding the fact that they are testing more - and most people found positive didn't even know they had it - and they are saying that for every positive test, they add 15 more people to the figures because they assume more are infected.    It's all so fake.    

    Biden is just a senile figurehead - you can guarantee that Hilary will be his VP - parachuted in at the last second to avoid any debates or scrutiny - the DNC changes its own rules when it suites them..