Black Lives Matter Campaign

I know that in the current climate, that this subject is delicate and controversial overall. However, does anyone else feel that the "Black Lives Matter Campaign" has gone too far? I think that it should be "ALL Lives Matter".

Voice actors from many popular animated series are stepping down from their roles because "They are considered racist".

The MINORITY (I add in capital letters) of the black ethnicity of the population, seem to be using it as an excuse to commit acts of extreme public disorder and destruction of property for no good reason.

I can remember, as a small child, watching Tom and Jerry cartoons that had the character of Mammy Two Shoes. Of course, I was only about 6 at the time, and I was unaware of the subject of racism. I also, currently, watch classic British sitcoms such as "Love Thy Neighbour", Til' Death us Do Part", "In Sickness and In Health" among others, which WOULD NOT be shown today. I don't think that sitcoms such as this were ever meant to be offensive. They were simply meant to be funny. Many members of the cast of these sitcoms that were enemies ON-SCREEN, were actually best friends OFF-SCREEN. 

The American group "The Dixie Chicks" have changed their name.

The USA can't escape their historical connection to the Triangular Trade, and their Confederate history any more than the UK can. It wasn't a good period in either nations histories. However, we can take a lesson from those that are depicted in statues and other works of art, in the manner that "These people did this, don't make their mistakes".

I am a descendant of the generation of the "Baby-Boomers" that would often be considered to be racist. However, my parents don't care about a person's ethnicity, as long as THEY are treated with the same respect and dignity that they would give anyone else.

What are your views?

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  • BLM has NOTHING to do with skin colour or black lives - it's a well funded Marxist political group working to divide & conquer to overthrow governments.      While they are burning and destroying everything to do with a country's culture and history, you don't hear a thing from them about the 103 black people shot by other black people last weekend in Chicago - a Democrat-run  'gun free zone'. 

    The typical BLM supporter is totally clueless and insulated from the real world and living in their mommy's basement.    They have no idea about the true intentions of the group - they are 'useful idiots'.    Same goes for Sunrise, Antifa, Momentum etc. - pathetic trouble makers with i-phones.   

    The whole thing is a scam for weak minded, self-loathing white liberals to feel good about 'sticking it to the man' while patronisingly having the racism and bigotry of low expectations of black people.     The 'liberals' are the most illiberal people on the planet.    

    And they are so lacking in self awareness that they can't even see it.

    What's hilarious is in the USA, the Democrats were the original slave owners and since the 1960s, through destructive social programs, they've managed to keep the black people in the poor neighbourhoods and instead of farming cotton, they are farming them for their votes.      And they vote for them.   

    You'll notice that the only cities burning are Democrat run, Democrat governors, mayors, chief of police etc. - and have been for decades - so how come they claim there's so much racism there.      Zero critical thinking.

    This bunch come out of the woodwork every 4 years to sway US elections - and Soros is getting desperate to get a return on all the money he's invested in trying to destroy the West..

    All the tactics they use are straight from the 'Rules for Radicals' by Saul Alinsky (a Chicago gangster and Hilary Clinton's hero).

  • Is it your claim then that George Soros is funding BLM and that George Soros is part of a Marxist Plot? Can i ask you first for the evidence of his funding of them.  I'm also interested in the idea that Soros may subscribe to the economic and/ or political theories of  Karl Marx. What would be the evidential basis for that?

  • There has already been links to certain people who gain from BLM. BLM in my opinion is a smoke screen. Do your own research, not just mainstream media and Facebook. Look into where blm money goes on the very platform they use. You may be suprised

  • Climate changes. Constantly. It has changed many times before and during our short spell on the planet, and it will change many times more long after we, and our and plastic carrier bags, have gone. 

  • Saying - do you believe in climate change is late saying - do you believe in clouds... Climate is a human construct. Climate Change is a slogan - a shadow projected on the wall of Platos Cave by the puppet masters.

  • I really like Priti Patel, she seems to get things done. Yes Biden needs to retire already, he forgets what he's saying half the time. I forgot to add, where are BLM on the current slave trade in Libya? That was bought up in conversation with my aquantance from Nigeria. We're freaking out about history here but whats happening with the slave trade currently? I havent followed that as such so maybe their working on it, we can only hope

  • That is the problem Plastic, your assumption that everyone that disagrees with you is 'not knowing' and that you are somehow superior because of the 'gifts' you allude to earlier, able to understand 'reality' in a way that us mere mortals cannot.  When, in fact, you have no idea how informed people are, not the people on this board and certainly not the entirety of the UK population.  Your assumption that you are  better placed to see the 'truth' than anyone else because of your superior capabilities is what is so irksome. Now you claim victimhood and that you are being 'policed'; you feel it is fair game to spout the long list of insults that I quoted earlier, claim that everyone who disagrees with you is stupid, but anyone that calls you out on your behaviour is policing you rather than having a legitimate reaction to your behaviour and attitudes. Whilst you have the right to use whatever language you like, those on the receiving end also have every right to think that your behaviour is unpleasant and to give voice to that view. 

    My views on BLM may surprise you or they may not. I don't feel the organisation is helpful and uses a legitimate concern regarding the rights of black people in America to push a particularly divisive agenda, although I have sympathy for the movement - I feel this is an important distinction.  Whilst the issue of racial discrimination is obviously important, and racism should be challenged always, I feel that the bigger issue is deprivation and it is one that isn't being addressed adequately by the current movement.  Deprivation, in my view, is the underpinning driver of inequality experienced by different communities. Deprivation in the UK disproportionately affects some ethnic minorities because of historical inequalities but it also impacts white working-class communities, particularly where manufacturing industries have been decimated; the communities affected experience very similar issues in regards to health and educational inequalities, overrepresentation in the criminal justice system and long-term unemployment, irrespective of race.  Viewing everything through the lens of race in that context is not very helpful when seeking to alleviate the suffering of communities and can sow division as we have witnessed at times on this thread.  We see this in the community in which I live with the attitudes towards immigrant communities - the issue if framed as us vs. them, 'they are taking our jobs', when the real issue is the transformation of the UK into a service-based economy that leaves too many people with alternative skills fighting each other for the few other jobs left. It's not an issue of race, it's an issue of macroeconomics. 

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  • That is the problem Plastic, your assumption that everyone that disagrees with you is 'not knowing' and that you are somehow superior because of the 'gifts' you allude to earlier, able to understand 'reality' in a way that us mere mortals cannot.  When, in fact, you have no idea how informed people are, not the people on this board and certainly not the entirety of the UK population.  Your assumption that you are  better placed to see the 'truth' than anyone else because of your superior capabilities is what is so irksome. Now you claim victimhood and that you are being 'policed'; you feel it is fair game to spout the long list of insults that I quoted earlier, claim that everyone who disagrees with you is stupid, but anyone that calls you out on your behaviour is policing you rather than having a legitimate reaction to your behaviour and attitudes. Whilst you have the right to use whatever language you like, those on the receiving end also have every right to think that your behaviour is unpleasant and to give voice to that view. 

    My views on BLM may surprise you or they may not. I don't feel the organisation is helpful and uses a legitimate concern regarding the rights of black people in America to push a particularly divisive agenda, although I have sympathy for the movement - I feel this is an important distinction.  Whilst the issue of racial discrimination is obviously important, and racism should be challenged always, I feel that the bigger issue is deprivation and it is one that isn't being addressed adequately by the current movement.  Deprivation, in my view, is the underpinning driver of inequality experienced by different communities. Deprivation in the UK disproportionately affects some ethnic minorities because of historical inequalities but it also impacts white working-class communities, particularly where manufacturing industries have been decimated; the communities affected experience very similar issues in regards to health and educational inequalities, overrepresentation in the criminal justice system and long-term unemployment, irrespective of race.  Viewing everything through the lens of race in that context is not very helpful when seeking to alleviate the suffering of communities and can sow division as we have witnessed at times on this thread.  We see this in the community in which I live with the attitudes towards immigrant communities - the issue if framed as us vs. them, 'they are taking our jobs', when the real issue is the transformation of the UK into a service-based economy that leaves too many people with alternative skills fighting each other for the few other jobs left. It's not an issue of race, it's an issue of macroeconomics. 

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