What Happens If Someone Tries A Discussion About "Ecology Versus Economy " ("Climate Change") Upon This Forum

Greetings, Anyone. I do not Post as Frequently as I used to. But this is a "Hot Topic" socially right now, but, a bit like CARS, no-one started a Thread about it.

My question is... the folly of "because One cannot see it, then it does no-one harm?"

...With regards to "Climate Change", this here WWW/Internet... & Electricity, Smartphones, Radiowaves, UHF, Mining Rare Minerals for said products, etc... All of this activity grows exponentially, just like the Population. Both are harmful in My Own opinion... but I am, um, 'insignificant'... so I was wondering about what anyone else's opinions about "Climate Change" are here in general.

(Beware I often have to sign off abruptly, sorry. But I post this and see if/how anyone else is interested in anyone else about it all.) From Me, Good Fortune To All Good People.

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  • I believe in the Science. I also support Extinction Rebellion but from home as i don't go out much at the moment. Used to be more into political activism but found it stressful in the end. I'm glad i did it though.

    I think if you want to bring class into it you can talk about the bosses and shareholders of Oil and Gas companies.  About as working class as messrs Farage and Johnson i think.  Anyway it's the political influence of these large companies that is keeping the problem unsolved.  I think most voters of both the major political parties want it solved.

  • They're upper class, but so are the double-barrelled folk who are the mouthpieces of XR. 

  • Who cares? I'm a Posties son and i don't.  That's a distraction from the issue.

  • it's a spectrum thing. I have to check i've not offended anyone.  Keeping on the good side of other humans is difficult.

  • (I reply to the reply not at myself!)

    This is okay, do not worry... because I began the Thread, I keep warning to keep things polite so that the *dreaded NAS* does not censor it...!! I wrote below that I can agree with certain parts from everyone and the rest of the parts are learning for Me.

  • I don't mean to come across as blunt or rude. I have strident opinions and that can be alienating for some.  (Just checking i've not upset you as i'm a friendly fella)

  • I don't mean to come across as blunt or rude. I have strident opinions and that can be alienating for some.

  • There are many ways to penalise poorer folk without hurting the rich much. It's like organic veg, posh folk have it all the time but the main reason a lot of folk don't buy it because they can't afford it. If you charge people more money for their gas bills, it doesn't hurt the rich who can afford to swop out their heating systems and boilers, but it does hurt poor people who have to choose between heating and eating.

    ...Hear Hear! (In agreement with that last post, there.)

    (...I began this Thread... it really is turning into a long-needed thing. I keep upvoting and Thanking... Wow, this is all awesome. But I say again, try not to get too heated Anyone... and still no comments about "radiation" yet either?)

  • There are many ways to penalise poorer folk without hurting the rich much. It's like organic veg, posh folk have it all the time but the main reason a lot of folk don't buy it because they can't afford it. If you charge people more money for their gas bills, it doesn't hurt the rich who can afford to swop out their heating systems and boilers, but it does hurt poor people who have to choose between heating and eating.

  • The thing is though mate. Who do you think Climate Change is going to hurt most? People without money or rich people?  You seen those pics of the flooding from Storm Ciara today?  Because it's mainly ordinary working class people stood around looking at flooded streets.  We're obsessed with class in this country.  Even to the point of cutting our noses off to spite are faces.  I don't doubt a large number of working class would agree with you but i they're wrong and all.  The mass of people can be wrong all the time. For example the majority of americans thought they'd been abducted by aliens at one point in the 90's.  Extinction Rebellion did get people talking about the issue more.  That's a good thing right?

  • It's not a distraction from the issue *at all*. Why do you think they keep proposing things that won't hurt them but will hurt lower income people? Because it isn't their life experience, and they don't even think of it. 

    When they blocked the tube train last year, you could hear people on the footage saying that they would lose their jobs if the train was delayed. Some of these folk are on zero hours contracts and the like, so if they don't get to work, they don't get paid. It's easy for Rupert Depiffle-Smythe to take time off, when he has hundreds of thousands in the bank, not so easy for someone living on the breadline.

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