Is anyone else interested? I'm not party political, because I find to much that is disagreeable about the various parties, for every plus point theres an equal minus one.
I realise this might be contravercial to some, is politics a taboo subject on here?
What autism friendly policies would you like to see parties take up?
Yes and I briefly read the other day that AI cannot be stopped from interfering at this years' general election. In terms of deep fakes etc. So that's gonna be fun. Black Mirror eat your heart out.
I didn't understand the last third of your post I Sperg. I agree that for those of us old enough to remember a world with no social media or computers, probably have learned to be differently critical. I'm always wary when someone decides they're telling me the TRUTH, (it's always in capital letters) because even if they dont' know it, someone has usually lied to them and sapped any ability to think at all let along critically they ever had. It always amazes me that people damn MSM and yet think any old crazy spouting BS on You-Tube must be the fount of all wisdom.
Not getting all my political information from either you-tube or other social media seems to make me a target for conspiracy theorists too.
Funny. I do the same, and get called a conspiracy theorist for it!
Particularly during Covid...
And when you are our age teh amount of time social media has been around comapred to how long we have lived, means that all of us got all our political views or actual knowledge from before the internet came about.
What has been different for me, is that since the internet, those of us who are capable of holding a few thoughts of our own, or (even worse) weilding the tool of "critical thinking", are no longer an isolated and powerless minority.
There's an WW2 Bomber Command saying that fits very aptly, particalarly nowadays: "If you are taking flak then you are over the target".
Those of us with non-standard / /utilitarian politics also live by teh mantra: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
I must admit I don't always win, but given that I can't argue my way out of a paper bag, and will not knowingly lie to win my point PLUS I'm usually fighting the best psychologially based propaganda that money can buy, yet even then simply knowing and being able to weild the truth can carry you through.
Here's two ladies who have achieved enough in life to be allowed to address governements telling a truth that everyone has been taught to deny.
T/W some people might find this particular truth very unpalatable, triggering even, (and it gets way worse if you really dig into it) but it's actually a fair representation of what the majority have been allowing to happen because they chose to believe the liars (and the labels they try to attach to tellers of truith) and ignore reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2oKhAb1BxI
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WV9olpK31acS/
Now this particular small slice of what's really going on in "politics" is real "survival of the fittest" stuff, actually about physical survival, not just people saying hurtful things.
Being on the dodo side of this particular struggle for survival, I used to find it all frustrating and terribly worrying, and I still get tempted to hate on people or at least despise their apparent stupidity and ignorance. But what good does that do?
What annoys me more than other people, is my own inability to provide complete solutions! I've been working since 2001 (The peak of my concern) to whomp up a better way of doing "politics" here in the U.K. but I've come to the conclusiion that for me, working alone it's an impossible task.
People think that "conspiracy theory" is like a club that people join that cuts them off from reality, but it's worse than that for many people. It's more like your reality gets a lot bigger and harder to deal with, and you need to compare notes with people, to find a bit of common ground, test your thinking as it were, and they bite your effing heqad off!! Then if you actually win your point, and they have to face an ugly truth, some of them will never listen to anything you say again. They see you as "toxic" and best avoided.
Autists will recognise that mechanism when applied to them "socially" of course...
WO, I get that too, I rarely talk about it especially on online forums, I've had a fair bit of abuse for my political views and I wouldn't say I'm that radical, I'm just not of the politial right, people always assume, that because I'm not a Tory I must support Labour and I don't, I'm non-aligned. Not getting all my political information from either you-tube or other social media seems to make me a target for conspiracy theorists too.
I'm interested and quite politically active in private, but I don't talk to anyone about it not even in online forums or the like since it seems to always end in chaos and I feel like I have to restrict myself on my knowledge and information as to not come across too much especially since I deep dive into data/fact checking and digging stuff like that out upsets folk. Kinda similar to the usual self censorship I'd do when I'm deeper into something than everyone else so I don't stand out, pretending to be casually interested or nodding and agreeing when I have an info-dump sitting in my brain wanting to come out.
I agree re Police Commissioner it was the same here. I wouldn't have known who I was voting for. When we do get to vote in local elections I only vote for those who bother to communicate and seem to be working for the community rather than a party and don't bother at all if they don't.
To me the world is similar to how it has been for quite a few years now, I do have children and have worried about what sort of world will be left behind when I die. I've been cynical about politicians for as long as I can remember, I've seen to many broken promises and twisted promises, you know where they try and make out what they've done is what they promised only it so twisted out of shape that no sane person would recognise it.
I don't think a new government will change things that drastically, I bet the changes to things like PIP will still take place with whoever is in government when it comes in denying any responsibility for the hardship caused
What really bugs me about these people is the total lack of morality and integrity that they claim to have in relation to other issues and this was something that was laid bare for all to see during Covid
I think that the only letter we got from the PM here in Manchester was about lockdown here in the U.K. and it was at that point that I realised that our world would never be the same again - I recall getting that letter in the post and my heart sank, realising at that point the situation around the world and with huge concern for my extended family in Ireland, as aside from the fact that I live alone here in the U.K. my thoughts turned to future generations - we have been through sheer hell in the past 4 years since 2020 right around the world - I don’t have children myself, but starting with the actual babies of today, I’ve often wondered about what kind of world they will inherit, given the enormity of the potential consequences for them growing up as we move forward, as our world is changing but not in a good way - people like us can clearly see what is going on around the world and we can only do our best to try to guide those around us to make the correct choices as we navigate the post-Covid world
I think I might have had one of those questionaires, I did fill it in, not with the answers they would of wanted, but I think it got thrown away before I could post it. Anything that comes from CCHQ tends to get laughed at before going to the recycling. I don't think any of the other's bothered.
We had Police and Crime Commisioner elections here, no council ones, I dont' see the point of PCC's, what are they supposed to do, well I know what it is they say they do or are going to do, but how? Do the police not know what sort of crime is happening in their area? Ours was for the whole of North Wales, none from round here, they all seemed to be more urban than rural and crime is different in rural to urban areas. None of them even bothered to leaflet us or make any contact at all, how does this add to any accountability? All but 1 were members of various political parties and I thought the police were supposed to be independent of politics or party politics at least. I mean we know they're not really, they do as the government of the day tell them, but shouldn't they at least keep up the charade?
i didnt get that...
i never get that type of thing, i guess the north west isnt important enough..
do you live in london or oxford or one of those other famous english places? they only seem to ever do surveys in those places and it gets totally wrong idea of the nations views because of that
I am wondering if everyone in England or the whole of the UK get a recent letter from the Prime Minister. It had a questionnaire, so thinking I could make suggestions I started reading it, but then realised it was multiple choice with nowhere to put our own ideas and seemed to be aimed at finding out if we would be voting for him. Needless to say I didn't complete it.
i like to vote independent.
because if we stop voting for parties and start voting for individuals, then this football divisive politic style will die and people will be elected individually based on who they are and not based on their party... no longer will you have a useless local leader that ignores you because they know they will keep office anyway because you always vote their party all the time locally so they can ignore all the locals concerns and not need to listen to us because of party politics guarunteeing them their job....
lets face it, both parties have failed... the people cheering labour will hate labour and then be cheering tories on to win against them later, its a endless circle. ignorant hatred and politics based on parties instead of policies.
In the post-Covid era, I’ve come to realise some very important things about politics, a subject that despite finding it tiresome, tedious and boring and aside from here in the U.K., the elections are also going on in my native Republic of Ireland - we learned some very important things about democracy and the democratic process since Covid, about how rotten and corrupt it is in virtually every western country - in my teens in the 80’s I was a leftist and I genuinely believed that trying to change the system from within would make a difference, as would voting, even in the corrupt Irish political system at the time - gradually over time, after 30 years in supermarket retailing and living in a socially deprived area of the U.K., it dawned on me that most politicans are only in power for personal gain and don’t really care about ordinary people, that political leaders are selected not elected, voting and elections are pointless and that we are enabling a corrupt and rotten system by voting, that democracy and the democratic process is by its very nature based on corruption and deception - a far more honest and transparent form of government would be one ruled over by an absolute ruler, dictator, martinet, autocrat who has all of the power or a Millitary government - that way, people would know where they stand, unlike the present system
