What scares you ?

Great idea for a thread.

Bigotry and fundamentalism in people, simply because of the repercussions and the awful things people will say and do because of their beliefs.

There isn't really anything else that scares me although lots of physical things can make me nauseous or dizzy.

Lots of things people say and do can make me angry.

A lot of people are scared of death but that has never scared me.

but yet the flip side is just as bad... such as how they say white people are the racist ones, and you cant be racist against white people... and we dont deserve a home, we dont deserve a place to exist, any rights, everyone has to be above us and infront of us. all because of blaming us for all the bad things that happened in history that none of us alive actually had any part of... this is racism, and yet it will never be acknowledge as racist, and we wont be protected from the repercushions of it as it will instead be seen as anti-racist, and we are in grave danger of attack and persecution now just for being this skin tone... and have no protection because it isnt the other skin tone that is seen and claimed to be the only persecuted tone. 

but yet still i dont fear that and it isnt to fear, mainly to roll my eyes at instead at the growing awareness of the hypocrisy of it all. if they want to persecute and attack me for historic events that i was no part in then they are then treating us the exact same way people have treated that other group of people who are named after a religion. they got blamed for all the bad things that happened in history, all the bad events, they didnt have protection and it was seen ok to hate them for random things and blame them... we are letting it happen again, and yet none of us will acknowledge it and i risk being banned even mentioning it lol thats how persecuted we are and defenceless, and how we will be shut up if we point it out. but as i said, i dont fear that, i eye roll it as it just annoys me of societies double standards around these issues.

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Hi Caelus, thank you for replying so honestly. I don't think we're ever likely to agree on this topic (though fingers crossed that we might agree on others) as we've had entirely different experiences. Whenever I have been left out of things it has been because I don't fit in and I have never experienced racism. However, it sounds like you've had some awful experiences and your reply has definitely helped me understand your posts and background so, thank you.

When I was at school, I was basically mute so I spent a lot of time observing people. One of the things I learned from watching people argue is that there are always two sides to a story and both of them usually have some validity behind them. I am not going to try to change your opinion as (i) that's not why I asked my question and (ii) I don't know anything about the hardships that you have been through. What I will try to do, though, is bear the above in mind when reading your future posts and read them with more understanding.

I'm really sorry that you've had such a tough time and I do hope you find an inclusive community to support you in future.

Hi Caelus, I can't reply at the moment but I will have a proper read through what you have just said and reply to you.

every black person i have ever met has been more privileged than i have been, has jumped ques ahead of me, has been treated better, has been included in things. i have been left to the bottom of the pile, i get excluded, no one cares about me. in my perspective black people are all more privileged than i am by a very long margin, and thats allowed because i am white so you all assume i am better off or privileged. thats why i think the notion of assuming one if privileged due to their skin colour is harmful and racist. because it harms the people like me who had no advantage at all and no privilege. and yes alot of my stuff i get held back on like social stuff, not being included, being the guy left outside the bubble, alot of that can be down to autistism. but it doesnt matter, i dont get help because im white so society views me as privileged and not in need of help, which adds yet another layer of no hope and being excluded and left behind... while the claim black people are more persecuted than me really grinds me because every single black person i have met has been part of the in crowd, has been included, has all been super happy and smiling, has been the ring leaders of bully gangs they are so popular. has been the rich guy in a sports car with 10 job offers thrown at his feet and he instead decided to take the 1 single opportunity in life i had at the time just because i wanted it, then he didnt take it and didnt turn up at contract signing at told me about how he didnt  bother with it and laughed about it without realising thats my only opportunity and he had 1000s of others likely because of his skin colour as everyone wants to diversity hire, while i never get any opportunity and he stole and squandered the only one i had at the time. we need to rethink this privileged crap because its not whiteman privilege anymore, its very clearly not.

as a white man i feel more persecuted against than anyone on this planet entirely, to the point society is pretty much telling me to kill myself and im not allowed to exist because im the big bad white guy and not allowing myself to get along. this society sucks, and everyone that defends it is a racist in my eyes. it judges people by skin colour,, judges everyone by skin colour, but people fail to see how it harms the ones that it has positive judgements of, such as white people, you have so much positive judgement of white people that we get outcast and not allowed help because everyone assumes we dont need help and we can be tossed aside and allow every other person to jump ahead of us, thats not fair, thats society racism but its racism based on a positive judgement of us but it has the most negative effect right?

as a white man i dont have a home country of my people to go to that will treat me better anymore, because this was my home country and now its racist against me for my skin colour. anyone else of any other colour has a home country to go to that can treat them better. i now have nowhere like that on this planet. yet again another difference in privilege. not very privileged after all this skin colour isnt it? sometimes i wish i could rip my skin off so you all can stop seeing it and judging me by it so i can finally get equal opportunity and fair chance and not be left behind on everything all the time.

Hi Caelus, I know this is an old post and I probably shouldn't open the subject again, but I think it's an important one and it's been playing on my mind and the only way it'll leave is by replying - sorry.

I'm trying to understand your point of view because it is not one that I agree with but you must have a reason for it.

Have you personally been persecuted because you are white male? I imagine it can happen, although I would say that the use of the word "everyone" in the post above is extreme and possibly a more accurate phrase would be "a few people". Or have you been persecuted and have attributed it to being white male when it could possibly have been for something else (e.g. autistic interpersonal difficulties)? Or are you reacting to groups who (you're not going to like it but I do have to say it) get persecuted way more than white males trying to work towards equality - A FEW of whom, but certainly not the justified majority, take it a bit too far.

I'm white female, so relatively privileged. I like pretty much everyone, white males included. I also have to say that if all women hated men, the species would have died out long ago... Yes, if I was walking down a dark street and I saw a man, I would be more nervous than if I saw a woman but that's not because I don't like men. It's because (i) I've seen lots of scary movies/TV programmes, (ii) men are statistically more likely to attack women than other women and (iii) men tend to be physically stronger and I would have a much harder time escaping from a man than a woman.

and that is the cost we must pay for fighting for social reform and bettering this world.... everyone that thinks im the big bad guy just for "being white" and you all hate ALL white people for the bad that a tiny minority of us did thousands of years ago and justify raciusm against my group of people over it when the world has literally moved thousands of years on from it, if i have to be banned to point this stuff out and make you all realise that your enacting racism yourselves then so be it... one day society will learn though and will acknowledge that this mindset of all of yours is racist... just like how the media flipped from posting hate stories about islam to saying that was racist now... it only takes a few years for that to change too so in your lifetime you could look back on this and admit i was right lol

Whether you posted racism or anti-racism you will almost certainly still be banned from the site if you continue to post on the subject.

point to me where i posted racism please?

if you read my posts i posted anti-racism lol

the fact you come in to attack me and claim im racist has proven my point, as if you read my post youd see i covered this already and covered the fact that if i spoke out against racism towards me or my people, youd all come in and attack me and ban me and silence me and say its ok to be racist against me because youd call me subhuman and not worthy of being listened to and you judge me as the evil one for the colour of my skin because as tiny minorioty of my people 1 thousand years ago did a bad thing.. so because of that you paint us all as evil and racist... which in turn is you being racist, and by attacking me and claiming im racist and shutting me up you proved my point that i already set out.... congratulations, you have given me this win... you have proven my point....

but heres another point... no one will care, because your society is so racist against my people and people who look like me that no one cares, you can be openly racist against me and then claim im the bad racist one when i point out or speak against your racism against me, and if i pointed out that will happen and it happened like it did people still wont care.. because you all racially hate me and my kind... you are the racists... and with institutional racism, it doesnt even matter because you hold the institution so you can say it doesnt count and then instead say i am the racist one for existing. you hold the institutional power and so this is real racism, you can be racist against me and it will be ok, you can say its ok and society will say its ok. and then ill be silenced and called the racist one instead... this is true institutional power based racism....and none of you will fight it or take notice of it because you all go with the power, you all stick to the institutional lines...