What scares you ?

Great idea for a thread.

Bigotry and fundamentalism in people, simply because of the repercussions and the awful things people will say and do because of their beliefs.

There isn't really anything else that scares me although lots of physical things can make me nauseous or dizzy.

Lots of things people say and do can make me angry.

A lot of people are scared of death but that has never scared me.

but yet the flip side is just as bad... such as how they say white people are the racist ones, and you cant be racist against white people... and we dont deserve a home, we dont deserve a place to exist, any rights, everyone has to be above us and infront of us. all because of blaming us for all the bad things that happened in history that none of us alive actually had any part of... this is racism, and yet it will never be acknowledge as racist, and we wont be protected from the repercushions of it as it will instead be seen as anti-racist, and we are in grave danger of attack and persecution now just for being this skin tone... and have no protection because it isnt the other skin tone that is seen and claimed to be the only persecuted tone. 

but yet still i dont fear that and it isnt to fear, mainly to roll my eyes at instead at the growing awareness of the hypocrisy of it all. if they want to persecute and attack me for historic events that i was no part in then they are then treating us the exact same way people have treated that other group of people who are named after a religion. they got blamed for all the bad things that happened in history, all the bad events, they didnt have protection and it was seen ok to hate them for random things and blame them... we are letting it happen again, and yet none of us will acknowledge it and i risk being banned even mentioning it lol thats how persecuted we are and defenceless, and how we will be shut up if we point it out. but as i said, i dont fear that, i eye roll it as it just annoys me of societies double standards around these issues.

really??

Caelus wrote; "..because from that one word i know their hateful view on me already.."

geez.. paranoid much?

im going to retract the latter part - there have been many people who have reached out or tried to reason with one individual, for which I am grateful. shoutout also to those who wanted to say something or get involved and held back - ive learnt my lesson!

are you saying that only chattel slavery is bad and that every other form of slavery is ok and good then?

because in my view all forms of slavery is bad and i dont discriminate between each form... so i dunno this looks bad for you really, or selective.... im going to hold onto hope that your just selective here and you agree that all forms of slavery is bad...

yes Dr, youve nailed it. lol reaching much?

if it was a reflection of society youd be paying to enter here and paying per hour in a tax to be here too.
your calling for others to group up and help you like a clique and attack me and do all the work for you in them words you just called out there and i see it because im used to that all through life. it kinda solidifies my diagnosis of you, your just a standard person, a school bully that had social groups of friends to attack others for you. but thats ok, there has to be people like you as you are the norm in society.

id advise you ignore the people teaching you to hate entire people just for one cherry picked thing a minority of them did in ancient history. one day you will see and realise your teachers are nothing but hate preachers.

oh wow, we need primary school level education here! first google for you, is the concept of "chattel slavery". I gave you book titles, if you are genuinely passionate about the topic, they are a very good starting point.

Secondly who HATES you? Lol, very telling. The irony is Im half Jewish...soo whos "people" exactly?

Oh and everyone check out Caelus diagnosis on the other thread for me.

These are your community members? WOW! As a community youre supposed to support. Feeling like a lone solider out here, but story of my life, Im reverting back to type i guess, which was not the idea of joining this forum. But i guess this forum is a reflection of society, so....

the slave trade was bad, i agree, thats why we english banned it and enforced a global ban on slavery which was normal in the world for all human history before england normalised the banning of it no? .... well it was normal in most recorded history, the romans has it as a basic class of citisensry and 90% of romes population was slaves, people were afraid of being freemen in those times as they lost protections.

slavery still goes on to this day despite england changing the world by normalising its absence.... there is millions of slaves in africa right now, and yet thats ok is it? are you going to hate on africa for them continuing the slave trade? or is it only ok to hate me, a englishman, for the slave trade long past in history, which i didnt partake in? .... is this just racism? is it because im white? i want to understand your hatred against my people because it isnt due to slavery and hating everyone of a people that had a part in slavery because if that was the case youd hate africans too right now wouldnt you given they are currently doing modern day slave trade?

ok i going to start a new thread to "deal" with you. Just for the record, where are your figures and facts in a single paragraph? Unfortunately for you, my specialism is Transatlantic Slavery and its legacy, you are about to be educated to another level! This knowledge is clearly lacking from not just your post but mindset. im not here to silence you, I actually encourage such views - you show who you are and your mentality. The fact you are trolling me, at the expense of someones post about their struggle with their health condition - speaks volumes. Safe space on here.. as a new member? disgraceful, but i dont shy away its a magnetic pull as its my specialist area. For those interested please have a look at "Capitalism and Slavery" Eric Willams, "Britains Black Debt" by Prof Sir Hilary Beckles and perhaps "White Fragility" would be more appropriate to cover these "sentiments" or psychological mindsets.

quick fact: Britain only paid off the £20m slave owners compensation (paid out in 1838), through taxes in 2015 - source HMRC.

we literally have a indian prime minister, and have you been to amny work place? white people cant even get jobs anymore, we only had a chance at a job after brexit, but since then they patched that and we have been kicked from jobs and trust me when i say theres becoming less white people in work again, were not allowed work... and without work we die in poverty... that is suppression.... and let me tell you this, those foreigners i work with, do you think they are nice and inclusive? ...they are not.... they hate you, they hate me, they speak their own language to exclude us and when we try to talk to them they tell us to shut up and that they are speaking in their language and they dont want anything to do with white people...

Considering how India's current ruling party is of the extreme Hindu nationalist variety, I don't think "there's racism in India so why shouldn't there be here?" is a great case to make. And your repeated claims that non-white people have more rights and power in Britain than white British people are just standard rhetoric used to inflame racist sentiment and not based in fact.

And again, at no point did I say that all (or most) white people are evil, and certainly not because of actions committed before their birth. No one can help things done by their people in the past, what we can do (and what a lot of people, white or otherwise, refuse to do) is acknowledge those actions, condemn those responsible and try to make good when those actions are still having an effect all this time later. I really wish you would read up on colonialism and the experiences of minorities in Britain and see if you find any areas where you've been misinformed. 

yeah that other comment you was replying to was my response to someone else, so this is gonna be tricky. although near my name at the top there it usually says "in reply to" so that can make it easier to see which comment the response was to.

i was asking tris to think on it as she has seemingly the mindset that "all white people are evil because one white guy did a bad thing 1000 years ago" its the same mindset that racists used against muslims

and as for you being jew, i believe i see a similarity in your peoples treatment and the direction the world is going against mine... they used historical bad to blame your people for everything which in turn they used to justify bad treatment against your people, which snowballed to a tragic conclusion. thats what we see here, justifying hate against a entire peoples based on some history, then demonising and taking their rights away, saying its ok to be hateful against them as they are infact the only ones capable of hate as they are so bad apparently... its the same stuff going over again. i like to challenge it when i see it.

can i achieve equal rights in india? where is my representation in bollywood? what if i went there and demanded my people be the majority in all power structures and work environments and be the majority representation in bollywood? im sure theyd have something to say about that and tell me to bog off no? and would they be racist for doing that? ... because wed be racist ones for doing that here lol

I am a Jew, so you are barking up the wrong tree and I cetainly do not have to think on this more owing to my own peoples history. You seem prone to jumping to conclusions. 

NAS86592 said:

Perhaps it was a "knee jerk" reaction towards witnessing many many past injustices

I am actually in agreement with you, but have attempted to smooth out the caustic flavour of some of your comments by taking a more "relaxed approach"

As a Jew I do not hate the German people as many of my orthodox brethren do to the point of not purchasing ANYTHING made in Germany. I consider the German people victims of their own crazy times casting aside their morality, blinded by their own dire conditions, and allowing themselves to be lead by a madman leader who found scape goats.

Do not jump to conclusions my friend.

Where did I say that all white people are evil? That and the idea that white British people have less rights than ethic minorities is just incredibly misinformed. 

And this isn't the first time you've compared minorities trying to achieve equal rights to that German political party. The fact that you see parallels in that direction rather than a white majority spreading conspiracy theories about minorities undermining their culture is kind of mindblowing. 

oof your mindset is really outdated... white people were the perpetrators thousands of years ago.... and not all of them... mainly the rich elite 0.1% .. so is it ok to say all white people are evil for the actions of the few? ... no it sounds racist doesnt it?

think on it, i dare you to think on it..

do you say all muslims are terrorists? ... because the most modern attrocities came from islamic terror attacks? .... so by your logic youd paint all muslims with that brush and call them evil and then take away their protections and say you cant be racist against them because some of them did bad things so they are all bad? ... is that right? ... does that sound right to you? ... as i said, think on this...

who has their own country focused on their own people and has full rights there? we dont.,... everyone else does.... were not allowed... our rights in the only place we can have rights are being secondary to others, while they get first in their own country and in ours... we are being pushed aside in the world. and youd say thats ok because thousands of years ago a few of us did something bad... that is the same justification everyone hated jews for and pushed them out of their homes and banned them from countries then did attrocities to them for and yet here you are repeating the same path, repeating the same mistakes... humanity never learns, i beg you.. i honestly beg you to think on this more... 

Perhaps it was a "knee jerk" reaction towards witnessing many many past injustices, but nevertheless worthy of truths we do not have to agree with but should respect. There is enough oppositional polarities at most social levels.

Your post was a diatribe on how it's the poor old white people who are the real victims. If that's actually your worldview and you really haven't noticed that on the whole white people are the perpetrators and not the victims of racism, I think "really??" is an appropriate response. 

Also there's a big difference between colonisation and immigration. The fact that you can't see that explains a lot of your fairly ignorant-seeming views on few topic. 

Your post was a diatribe on how it's the poor old white people who are the real victims. If that's actually your worldview and you really haven't noticed that on the whole white people are the perpetrators and not the victims of racism, I think "really??" is an appropriate response. 

Also there's a big difference between colonisation and immigration. The fact that you can't see that explains a lot of your fairly ignorant-seeming views on few topic. 

we literally have a indian prime minister, and have you been to amny work place? white people cant even get jobs anymore, we only had a chance at a job after brexit, but since then they patched that and we have been kicked from jobs and trust me when i say theres becoming less white people in work again, were not allowed work... and without work we die in poverty... that is suppression.... and let me tell you this, those foreigners i work with, do you think they are nice and inclusive? ...they are not.... they hate you, they hate me, they speak their own language to exclude us and when we try to talk to them they tell us to shut up and that they are speaking in their language and they dont want anything to do with white people...

Considering how India's current ruling party is of the extreme Hindu nationalist variety, I don't think "there's racism in India so why shouldn't there be here?" is a great case to make. And your repeated claims that non-white people have more rights and power in Britain than white British people are just standard rhetoric used to inflame racist sentiment and not based in fact.

And again, at no point did I say that all (or most) white people are evil, and certainly not because of actions committed before their birth. No one can help things done by their people in the past, what we can do (and what a lot of people, white or otherwise, refuse to do) is acknowledge those actions, condemn those responsible and try to make good when those actions are still having an effect all this time later. I really wish you would read up on colonialism and the experiences of minorities in Britain and see if you find any areas where you've been misinformed. 

yeah that other comment you was replying to was my response to someone else, so this is gonna be tricky. although near my name at the top there it usually says "in reply to" so that can make it easier to see which comment the response was to.

i was asking tris to think on it as she has seemingly the mindset that "all white people are evil because one white guy did a bad thing 1000 years ago" its the same mindset that racists used against muslims

and as for you being jew, i believe i see a similarity in your peoples treatment and the direction the world is going against mine... they used historical bad to blame your people for everything which in turn they used to justify bad treatment against your people, which snowballed to a tragic conclusion. thats what we see here, justifying hate against a entire peoples based on some history, then demonising and taking their rights away, saying its ok to be hateful against them as they are infact the only ones capable of hate as they are so bad apparently... its the same stuff going over again. i like to challenge it when i see it.

can i achieve equal rights in india? where is my representation in bollywood? what if i went there and demanded my people be the majority in all power structures and work environments and be the majority representation in bollywood? im sure theyd have something to say about that and tell me to bog off no? and would they be racist for doing that? ... because wed be racist ones for doing that here lol

I am a Jew, so you are barking up the wrong tree and I cetainly do not have to think on this more owing to my own peoples history. You seem prone to jumping to conclusions. 

NAS86592 said:

Perhaps it was a "knee jerk" reaction towards witnessing many many past injustices

I am actually in agreement with you, but have attempted to smooth out the caustic flavour of some of your comments by taking a more "relaxed approach"

As a Jew I do not hate the German people as many of my orthodox brethren do to the point of not purchasing ANYTHING made in Germany. I consider the German people victims of their own crazy times casting aside their morality, blinded by their own dire conditions, and allowing themselves to be lead by a madman leader who found scape goats.

Do not jump to conclusions my friend.

Where did I say that all white people are evil? That and the idea that white British people have less rights than ethic minorities is just incredibly misinformed. 

And this isn't the first time you've compared minorities trying to achieve equal rights to that German political party. The fact that you see parallels in that direction rather than a white majority spreading conspiracy theories about minorities undermining their culture is kind of mindblowing. 

oof your mindset is really outdated... white people were the perpetrators thousands of years ago.... and not all of them... mainly the rich elite 0.1% .. so is it ok to say all white people are evil for the actions of the few? ... no it sounds racist doesnt it?

think on it, i dare you to think on it..

do you say all muslims are terrorists? ... because the most modern attrocities came from islamic terror attacks? .... so by your logic youd paint all muslims with that brush and call them evil and then take away their protections and say you cant be racist against them because some of them did bad things so they are all bad? ... is that right? ... does that sound right to you? ... as i said, think on this...

who has their own country focused on their own people and has full rights there? we dont.,... everyone else does.... were not allowed... our rights in the only place we can have rights are being secondary to others, while they get first in their own country and in ours... we are being pushed aside in the world. and youd say thats ok because thousands of years ago a few of us did something bad... that is the same justification everyone hated jews for and pushed them out of their homes and banned them from countries then did attrocities to them for and yet here you are repeating the same path, repeating the same mistakes... humanity never learns, i beg you.. i honestly beg you to think on this more...