Published on 12, July, 2020
Hello,
Anybody who still remembers a comment with hate speech in it please either send it to me in a screenshot or to the managers email
communitymamager@nas.org.uk
I'm spending my Friday afternoon doing just that.
I'm afraid it is less to do with you being an autist and more to do with other categories you actually don't find yourself in, because you aren't the traget of a specific type of hateful content you may not always see that it is hateful because it doesn't affect you or people like you directly (demographic dependant).
🐝 Bees 🐝 (they/them) Autism resources in bio #stoptheshock #NothingAboutUsWithoutUs said:Sorry Iain but these are not comparable things. And it would be victim blaming to suggest people should try not to be offended more so than people should just try not to be offensive.
Hello Bees, I didn't see the OP say she was the victim at any point.
I understood that she read the discussions and was offended or triggered by them and highlighted a few cases where the rules had been broken and more where it was borderline.
I suggested that rule breaks should be dealt with by the mods, but otherwise if the posts are not breaking the rules then we have no reasonable expectation for them to be removed.
If the reader is still offended then the only reasonable response is to stop reading the post - simple personal responsibility to themselves.
As an autist I may be missing some unwritten rule and ask that you explain it to be because it seems clear cut to me.
Sorry Iain but these are not comparable things. And it would be victim blaming to suggest people should try not to be offended more so than people should just try not to be offensive.
I am not sure why I can't DM you rn but I have reported the issue as well for you because Ottilie is right, they break rule 7 even when waffer thinly veiled under a veneer of feined "just asking".
I sent them the same text by email. I copied it here to make sure it won't be ignored. I'm grateful for your offer
Hi Hibernating,
I'm really sorry that this has alienated you from what should be a welcoming and supportive community. Here's the contact details for complaints:
If you have feedback, a concern or a question, please contact the Community Manager (communitymanager@nas.org.uk) in the first instance.
You may have had trouble finding it as it's underneath list of the rules. As others have said the mods are volunteers. It's probably best to bypass a volunteer that may or not pick up on your post. If you don't feel able to send a complaint to the Community Manager would you like one of us to pass it on for you? I'm not always on here as I'm a carer for my autistic son and autistic myself so I limit what I expend my energy on.
Those quotes you provided violate rule 7. - "This is a hate-free zone for autistic people, their families and friends, and professionals working in the field. We do not permit sexism, homophobia, racism, anti-Semitism, religious intolerance, transphobia, disability hate speech, hate speech, obscenities or pornography to be posted or linked to here."
I hope something is done about your complaint and you feel able to return if you feel able. Take care. Xx
I really wish you wouldn't go, it's not fair that you can be bullied out of this space like this.
I don't feel safe in this forum and I blame you for it.
I understand where you are coming from, but I feel it unfair to blame the mods as it isn't their job to protect you from anything you find offensive.
If we had one person who found discussion about cuddly toys offensive and another group loved talking about the toys, should we block the group who talk about the toys?
An extreme example but it illustrates the point.
Yes we should keep a lid on legally defined hate speech or anything that explicitly breaches the Ts & Cs of the site, but this is a fine line sometimes as the hate speech is often only implied.
I think we should take some personal responsibility and avoid discussions that begin to trigger us or we find offensive.
it's some members at fault and if it all continues this community will likely be terminated.
Yes, I fear that too.
Did anyone of you read comments like
Sadly, I remember all those things being said and in what context.
I'm sorry you've decided to leave and I wish you well and all the best.
I don't have a problem with the mods though. They do a really good job, especially good of them as they are volunteers as well. They do what the organisation tells them, it's some members at fault and if it all continues this community will likely be terminated. I really hope not. I know some really good people here and have known some remarkable people who are no longer with us, sadly.
I hope you will come back in the end. You, and your posts, will be sorely missed. Though I don't always post I do read most posts here. Take care.
I'll be very sorry to see you leave and wish you much happiness in life x
Clare Mod Suzanne Mod Chloe Mod
I don't feel like I can add anything meaningful to this other than to say I agree and also find this concerning, both in terms of the things we see posted and the way we're already seeing a bunch of good and friendly users leave rather than be exposed to this stuff.