autistic venn diagrams

hi everyone,

i was just wondering if anyone was aware of the venn diagram between autism and the following things:

1) autism and veganism

2) autism and animal rights activism

2) autism and non-cisgendered gender identity

3) autism and queerness

i'm interested in the correlations/stats around this and any information about it that is out there.

thanks!

peter.

  • Pretending i have done something that i have not done, just so you can spew hate at me is really sad. I thought better of you.

  • It's patronising to suggest that an autistic trans person couldn't have realised that on their own.

    And ableist.

  • And i should add, that the actual trans people are also victims of the 'trans ideology' as pushed by the activists.

    Don't speak for me with your concern-trolling.

  • Obviously an emotive subject if people are either unwilling or unable to argue against the point i actually made and instead argue against something i didnt say.

  • I wonder what activists are you talking about would tell people "be trans and solve your problems" or push for "trans ideology" (whatever you mean by that)?!?

  • My closest friend is a trans woman who is autistic too. I've never met anyone who knows who they are or what needs they have more than this person. They are going through a lot of difficulties with their health, family and society fighting for their identity. I don't think that someone who doesn't know who they are would go through all this in order to be true to themselve. 

  • People aren't confused. They know who they are. It's patronising to suggest that an autistic trans person couldn't have realised that on their own.

  • For the avoidance of confusion I am not a cat. https://youtu.be/qcnnI6HD6DU

  • I'm gay, and people used to say the same things about gay people, claiming we were all made gay by gay activists. That's how Clause 28 came about - supposedly protecting children from the knowledge that being gay is perfectly ok.

    I may be autistic, but that doesn't mean I'm not capable of realising I'm not heteronormative. The parallels to the past are stark in this regard - here's a party advertising poster from the 1987 election to show how this stuff just doesn't go away.

    Poster showing e1987 conservative party election messaging.

    PS: Not interested in an argument, so I'll likely not respond further.

  • I would be cautious about any 'evidence' of a correlation between autism and non-cisgendered identity, and one of victim groups of children being coerced into claiming trans identity is confused autistic children.

    We all know how baffelling the world is when you are autistic, thinking there is something wrong with you ... and along comes an activist who tells you being trans will solve all your concerns ... with life destroying consequences for many.

    And i should add, that the actual trans people are also victims of the 'trans ideology' as pushed by the activists.

  • Hello Peter Wave

    1. Autism and Veganism: There's no existing scientific consensus or direct research to suggest a direct correlation between being vegan and being autistic. Autistic individuals, like non-autistic individuals, may choose a vegan lifestyle for various reasons, including ethical beliefs, health concerns, or personal preferences. Autistic individuals may also have certain dietary sensitivities or preferences, but these don't necessarily lead to veganism.

    2. Autism and Animal Rights Activism: As for a connection between autism and animal rights activism, it's not a widely studied area. Autistic individuals, like anyone else, have a range of interests and passions, and some might be drawn to animal rights activism. However, there is some anecdotal evidence and hypotheses that autistic individuals might feel a strong sense of empathy towards animals, perhaps due to shared experiences of sensory sensitivity or feeling misunderstood, which could lead them towards activism in this area.

    3. Autism and Non-Cisgendered Gender Identity: Some studies have found higher rates of gender diversity among autistic individuals compared to the general population. A review of scientific literature published in 2020 found that autistic individuals are more likely than non-autistic individuals to identify as transgender or gender-diverse. The reasons for this correlation aren't entirely clear, but it's thought to be due to a combination of genetic, hormonal, social, and environmental factors.

    4. Autism and Queerness: Similarly, some studies suggest a higher prevalence of LGBTQ+ identities among people with autism compared to the general population. This may be due to various factors, such as differences in social interaction and understanding, or it may be that autistic individuals are less influenced by social norms and thus more likely to recognize and express their true sexual orientation or gender identity.

    Remember that correlation does not imply causation, and every autistic individual is unique. These broad findings don't apply to everyone with autism. Also, the research in these areas is still developing, so our understanding may change as new studies are conducted.