Is Autism 'a man's world'?

Please know that I'm not writing this to be deliberately inflammatory or provocative, or to have a go at anyone here, but I just feel so isolated as an Autistic woman. Most other Autistic people I've engaged with are men, and seem to have quite a different presentation and outlook on life to me. They are often very blunt, whereas I'm not. When I get emotional, they don't seem to understand - I've been accused of 'emotionally exploding', for example, simply for expressing that I felt uncomfortable with a conversation. It's more than that, though, to be honest I'm finding it quite hard to explain in logical terms...I just don't feel I fit in in the Autism world or the neurotypical world, and I'm wondering if this is because I'm female. Does anyone else feel this way?

  • The ones in denial of their autism.

    I feel this could be me. However, it's very difficult to suddenly change your life over night after a diagnosis as an adult. Although I would say I've always  been my own person, I've never tried to be any body else. (Not taking into account unconscious masking to get through the day).

  • Constantly masking and competing in a world not made for them. NT ways of seeing symbols and words. The entire reality wrapped up in words that are not theirs. 

  • Yes I agree. Although I would add that I think the "female presentation" can also be applied to men so I think there's an "atypical" presentation but it's quite common. I dont think its helpful to look at it in terms of gender because this excludes non binary people. Having said that, if we didn't have these distinctions, a lot of women including myself probably wouldn't get diagnosed. This is just my opinion.  I don't feel I fit in with either camp - AS or "NT". I don't  feel I have a lot in common with a lot of people on the spectrum, however this is just my judgements from coming on here and reading up on the net or watching youtube. I don't feel like a geek or nerd.  I dont like using AS language like 'meltdown' or 'stimming' .I have friends, I have a job (I don't go from one job to another which I have read is common for people on the spectrum). I feel somewhere in the middle and I don't know what my preference is. My friends are unconventional but I don't think they're on the spectrum. Having said that, a lot of people get on my nerves but i couldnt tell you if this is because theyre NT or AS. I too can be "over emotional". Also, Im not blunt. I put this down to being very socially aware and not wanting to cause trouble. I can't handle conflict. Being blunt is something I definitely don't relate to. I've read about different types of masking and I think my life choices have been a type of masking and very much helped shape the idea that I am somewhere in between. Also, not knowing about being AS until 6 months ago so I haven't held myself back in life.

    I find men easier to talk to. Yes, women are more chatty and provide more cues but men just seem to tax my brain far less. I can talk to men if they are chatty. If they're expecting me to "be the woman" and lead, then I struggle. 

    I don't feel weird enough to be full on Aspie but I feel a bit too weird for normal circles. I'm happy with that. I'm my own person.

  • hmmm internet and real life are different though.
    the people talking online would probably be the people who dont say a word in real life. typing and writing is a more direct passage to a persons thoughts and brain without the barrier of vocalisation to hold them back. and most autisits would be very held back vocally and thus wont say much irl, and so in that case in person you would probably get along with them more than NTs in person. as in person the NT is more likely to say or do stuff you wont like while the autist would be more quiet and none vocal. so youd get along with everyone more in person.

    and generally the autist type is usually the type that gets banned and censored from all other social media and platforms for being that blunt and putting facts above feelings or simply not knowing how the facts could hurt peoples feelings. 

    as for emotionally exploding, males do that too, but males generally have to mask that or change it into something cooler, as showing any emotion to a man is weak and soft, unless its anger, thats totally ok and cool so long as it doesnt skew your logic and bork your argument then its uncool. emotionally males have to appear to be more stoic. but we do feel lotta emotion and do flip and throw things and go out of control, just we do that unseen out of sight from others. alpha wolf that shows weakness of any kind will be ripped to shreds by the betas who all want to get ahead of him and be the new alpha.

  • trying to be neurotypical. 

    Not at all - they rise through the ranks because they have a lot of the typical female conversational & interpersonal skills but with the hard logic of the aspie brain - pretty much unstoppable in business.

  • The outcasts is true to themselves - the ones rising to your idea of success - trying to be neurotypical. 

  • Yes - the same fir everyone. Autism doesn’t mean I connect with autistics necessarily. Especially the autists who are trying to be NT mostly. The ones in denial of their autism. 


  • Also as a post-script ~ "If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism."


  • This is probably going to sound sexist but I've measured women aspies as 'aspie-lite'    The get all the disadvantages of blunt thinking  and logical like a bloke along with most of the social skills needed to be able to hide in plain sight - but having to live and perform in the female environment - which is brutal to 'outsiders'.

    It's a position where I usually see two outcomes - they either become outcasts / oddballs or they rise through the ranks very quickly in business due to the iron hand in the velvet glove approach.


  • As someone who is of the male sex and of a more female gender I do not do the blunt thing either, but I do have to keep a check on my emotional expressiveness particularly around men and most women.

    Anyway ~ I very very much indeed found the following website by Samantha Craft really gave me my first complete understanding and comprehension of my autistic traits:


    Females and Autism / Asperger's: A checklist

    https://the-art-of-autism.com/females-and-aspergers-a-checklist/


    Perhaps also check out the following seriously good descriptive write up by Claire Jack PhD:


    10 Signs of Autism in Women

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-autism-spectrum-disorder/202104/10-signs-autism-in-women


  • I'm female, and there are certainly more of us on here. I'm still waiting for my assessment. Women generally don't present the same way as men. When I first found out that I was likely to be on the spectrum, it was through a counsellor.  I then started reading about it, and it took a lot of time before I began to get to the experiences of women on the spectrum. Before then, I was quite  confused by what my counsellor had seen as I thought I was 'normal', and I just kind of sucked at life.

  • I'm an autistic male and you could almost be describing me there! Apart from the bluntness - I'm guilty of that and I'm trying to improve.

    As far as emotions I feel a hell of a lot, too much if anything.

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