No one will listen to me

That's an interesting one. I can get confused when people say "next Friday" to mean "this Friday". I have a lot of struggles like that.

Well, yes, but wouldn't you find that exhausting? I personally have had too many years of trying to work out how to do conversation to come across as "normal" and it simply doesn't work for me. I'm much more relaxed when I'm just me however ineffective it is...

I don't know if this is true for others, but I think it's easy to get hurt in conversations anyway, because people overlook your views and cut you up, that kind of thing. It's hard going, especially in groups.

I learned to fake the social authority by studying the unwritten rules of the game - it's like playing chicken or brinkmanship - you just appear to be in charge and the ones with a weaker mind will automatically follow.

There's power games you can play by arriving at meetings early to get the better seats around a meeting room table.

One of the easy tricks is to always wear a shirt & tie and to make sure you keep your desk clear or clutter - so you asppear to be efficient and in control.  Works every time.

Yes, people really are that shallow.

There's a lot to be learned from watching The Dog Whisperer - people follow exactly the same pack behaviour but it's muddied by social BS.  Learn to claim the territory - without peeing in the corners.

Will Young said:

I hate it when NT’s just follow people’s ideas and opinions like sheep.

Yeah, I have observed this kind of behaviour too. And I hate it as well. And the people they follow don't necessary need to be correct in their ideas, but have high social authority. And when you have an opinion, Its start attacking you for not following....

I don’t know whether I’d like to be a survival situation with an NT because  on one hand they never do anything for themselves which would be handy but then again they’d probably do nothing and cry because to live they’d have to kill a rabbit or something.

I hate it when NT’s just follow people’s ideas and opinions like sheep.

One will agree with the other just so it makes them look correct or like your the weird one just because you have an opinion of your own.

It makes me so angry when a bunch of people just agree with each other even if neither one of them knows the answer to a question and I do. It basically is insulting my integrity and intelligence.

A question was what was the British 7th Armored Division called and I knew it was the dessert rats but they themselves didn’t know so instead of writing what I said just left it blank FFS. 

I honestly don’t get them most of the time.

So true....

This situation happens a lot in the workplace, there's a good few times I could have said 'I told you so' but I'm bigger than that, well... sometimes!

For an NT to take on a new idea that's outside of their developed culture or set of beliefs they need a bunch of their peers to be on board with that idea too. A new idea suggested to one person could be dismissed, even with logic. But, If a bunch of them adopt that idea as their own , through a set of discussions involving others, it's more easily accepted. In my experience nothing is ever put in place instantly even if the benefits are also instant. The idea has to be slowly taken on, a process put in place to accommodate the new idea. Apparently NTs are the ones who can put themselves in other people's shoes and are adaptable to change! Go figure...

NTs seem to have a need to feel superior.   Any weakness is exploited to make themselves feel better that those around them.   I wouldn't worry about it - just find a place where you fit and are valued for being you.

Wow~ this thread is amazing~ I just want to say thanks for asking this question!!!
This very same question has troubled me lots in life as well. And I can relate to many of the replies that people have given!
So thanks also for the responses that people have given, as it makes me feel not so alone.

Roswell said:

I get the impression that it' more about style than substance.

I can definitely relate to this. From my observations of neurotypicals, it seems that some people are just good at "manipulating" others to get what they want. For example, acting "cute" to get extra leniency for not completely their work. Or acting exaggeratingly apologetic when they had a change of plans to do something they enjoyed better rather than do their commitment with you. Or acting like they are an expert at something, but in reality only know about it very superficially. So many examples. I don't really like how neurotypicals can often get their way by style, but if what they did was communicated differently, the action would be frowned at.

Original Prankster said:

I find systematically taking apart the opposing point of view, pointing out very flaw and demolishing it from the foundations up usually works...

Yeah, I do the same thing too. I care a *lot* about logic. I also point out flaws about the opposing view very systematically. But what I often get from neurotypicals is that they just stop listening. They do not care about logic. Even though I am analysing their view very systematically, point by point. They hear one thing that is in disagreement with their view, they just stop listening. And even though I'm only debating on the topic and not the person, they somehow think it's a personal attack. People could be really mean and not listen at all... they ignore emails if it's in an email; or they completely interrupt my speech if we were talking...

Will Young said:

I get that a lot, people think that because I have ASD i’m crazy or have know right to be heard even though I’m probably smarter than them and have more knowledge on the subject than them.

Yeah...I kind of worry about that too. It's one of the reasons I'm afraid of disclosing, as they might think a diagnosis is a medical evidence that one is cognitively incompetent. Though, even without disclosing, I think people still think I'm weird, and they my views are worth less, and just don't pay attention whenever I try to explain something.

Will Young said:

I tend to talk to people with ASD or just smart people if I’m talking about something with a viewpoint on.

Yeah. I think I enjoy talking to smart people and people with ASD, basically people who can analyse things logically. I wish I knew more ASD people in real life though!

I get that a lot, people think that because I have ASD i’m crazy or have know right to be heard even though I’m probably smarter than them and have more knowledge on the subject than them.

I keep arguing that when people say next Friday they should use next for the Friday coming because that’s how English works. Nobody accepts it and just dismisses it.

I tend to talk to people with ASD or just smart people if I’m talking about something with a viewpoint on.

That’s what I tend to do as when they can’t counter the flaws you’ve pointed out you know you’ve won.

If they try to pick flaws in your ideas or views then you just have to counter there shots at your ideas

I find systematically taking apart the opposing point of view, pointing out very flaw and demolishing it from the foundations up usually works...

Mind you, it does tend to result in a somewhat shell-shocked audience and bridges that are not just burned but annihilated!

Every setting. I grew up on the edge of a village in the middle of nowhere in Wales. I may be even more socially inept than your average Aspie.

I get the impression that it' more about style than substance. I wish there were lessons in style for Autistic people. Teaching us whatever it is people want in conversation.

In what setting?  Work, NHS, Down the pub? There's lots of possible reasons that may be nothing to do with your personality.

Try putting it a different way? Usually get frustrated and driving myself mad before I realise I can't force others to agree with me, then again sometimes I have to question if my point of view is right, (this doesn't happen often lol I like to think I'm always right ) I'm not of course... It is hard as an aspie to see something the way somebody else might though because we are so self focused.