Is the prime minister stopping PIP for autism ????

Saw this on my phone 

DWP 'narrowing' PIP eligibility will 'directly affect' people with one condition... saying it will affect people who have autism.

Parents
  • from what im aware of the pip questions exclude autism anyway.
    you only get it if you lie and say you need someone to help you on the toilet or someone to help you cross the road and so on and cant do anything yourself... autism isnt like that, so by those questions you cant get pip with autism anyway unless you commit fraud and lie about it

  • from what im aware of the pip questions exclude autism anyway.
    you only get it if you lie and say you need someone to help you on the toilet or someone to help you cross the road and so on and cant do anything yourself...

    No.

    See below the actual criteria:

    Daily living

    • preparing food (including needing prompting or supervision to cook) taking nutrition (which means eating, including needing prompting or supervision)
    • managing therapy or monitoring a health condition (including needing reminding to take medication)
    • washing and bathing (including needing prompting or supervision to wash)
    • managing toilet needs or incontinence (including needing prompting or supervision)
    • dressing and undressing (including needing prompting)
    • communicating verbally (including needing communication support)
    • reading and understanding signs, symbols, and words (including needing prompting to read or understand written information)
    • engaging with other people face-to-face (which means being able to interact in an appropriate manner, understand body language and establish relationships)
    • making budgeting decisions (which includes the need for assistance when planning a budget or managing and paying bills).

    Mobility

    • planning and following a journey (including needing prompting or assistance to make a journey)
    • moving around (this looks at physical ability to move around).
    autism isnt like that, so by those questions you cant get pip with autism anyway unless you commit fraud and lie about it

    Just because you are the way you are, doesn't mean that others don't struggle with autism with regard to these things.

    The former (if it isn't still used - I think it is) Level 3 person would and people can at any level struggle with some because of it being a spectrum.

    It needs to be remembered that we aren't all 'high functioning' in every (or any) area.

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  • from what im aware of the pip questions exclude autism anyway.
    you only get it if you lie and say you need someone to help you on the toilet or someone to help you cross the road and so on and cant do anything yourself...

    No.

    See below the actual criteria:

    Daily living

    • preparing food (including needing prompting or supervision to cook) taking nutrition (which means eating, including needing prompting or supervision)
    • managing therapy or monitoring a health condition (including needing reminding to take medication)
    • washing and bathing (including needing prompting or supervision to wash)
    • managing toilet needs or incontinence (including needing prompting or supervision)
    • dressing and undressing (including needing prompting)
    • communicating verbally (including needing communication support)
    • reading and understanding signs, symbols, and words (including needing prompting to read or understand written information)
    • engaging with other people face-to-face (which means being able to interact in an appropriate manner, understand body language and establish relationships)
    • making budgeting decisions (which includes the need for assistance when planning a budget or managing and paying bills).

    Mobility

    • planning and following a journey (including needing prompting or assistance to make a journey)
    • moving around (this looks at physical ability to move around).
    autism isnt like that, so by those questions you cant get pip with autism anyway unless you commit fraud and lie about it

    Just because you are the way you are, doesn't mean that others don't struggle with autism with regard to these things.

    The former (if it isn't still used - I think it is) Level 3 person would and people can at any level struggle with some because of it being a spectrum.

    It needs to be remembered that we aren't all 'high functioning' in every (or any) area.

Children
  • ah i see engaging with other people and verbalising on your list counts.

    the questions i saw i dont think had any allowance for that though, it mainly was giving points for stuff like needing help to go toilet and go around town and cross the road and plan journeys.... questions i saw seemed to have no question based on engaging with people or verbalising, unless i didnt see the full questions.... or the questions are different to what i saw. 

    but yeah it was very mobility focussed.... and care worker requiring focused...  from what i saw anyway. perhaps the questions are like i said, but that means then the questions are purposely avoiding the autism traits of lack of engaging with others or verbalising.