Dangerous behavior

Hi, I have briefly mentioned this previously but my 15 y.o daughter will leave the place we are and go for a wander and explore, or just because she's bored or had enough. Some times it's predictable and others are just 'out of the blue'. My main issue is that, when she leaves home, we don't know where she will go, but we have her location to keep an eye on her. We live down the road from the forest and where there is a stream near the road, where she has gone to before and she has an obsession with water but has sensory issues with it so she will only get her hands and feet wet at times. She won't go swimming at all but she is a great swimmer. It's worrying. 

Also because we live on a main road and she loves cars and will walk in the traffic and on the curb, next to it all. She had a close call with a car before and it's worrying. But the thing that confuses me is that she understands safety and knows how to be sensible but then at the same time she will dangle over a bridge on a motorway and cross a motorway in the need to get away. How do I prevent this. We keep the front door locked , Windows locked, the back gate is always in our view and she won't go in the garden away. We have a driveway which is now covered in stones which can give us a few extra seconds. Then we have a gate which can help us. We can also watch her because it takes her a while to put her shoes on so that can help with us. And if she does mange to open the front door, all the other doors will bang because of the wind so that's a big sign as well. She does worry me at times and her rational thinking goes when she's in a negative mood which can lead to her forgetting the basic safety rules, I guess. 

Any ideas on how to keep her safe when she's out. I've asked people but they don't understand. I've looked on Google but it just repeats itself. I'm doing everything I can but I don't want her to feel like it's a prison and that she can't go out because then she will want to escape and won't want to come back. It's very complicated. Thanks and sorry again for bothering you all

  • obviously you dont either because you failed to see who i was replying to here lol

  • perhaps you have this view because you blame your autism on everyone else then instead of owning it and owning the symptoms of your condition? ..... you not being able to get along with NTs and be part of their group isnt them.... its you.... its part of your condition.... 

    I'm not autistic. I do not have autism. My daughter is the one who has it and like many others, she struggles daily and never asked for this to happen to her. I don't like what you are commenting because you obviously don't understand what I'm talking about so just leave it at this please. I know you were trying to help and give your view across but tbh it hasn't helped. 

  • That De-Fault, death by association looks like this: if you're friends with someone unfit, YOU are also assumed unfit. Or if there is a random stabbing at a local shop, they associate that shop with stabbings until the owner is forced to close it and go broke. 

    hmmm not entirely sure you understand behavior or NTs or anything with that tbh.... i tried to read this back to make sense out of it more but its just wrong.

    alot of people these days have issues, theres no death by association at all, theres no stigma.... its all assumed by yourself... no one cares if your unfit or unwell in any way so long as your unwell mental state doesnt cause you to be weird or lash out or anything or make them cringe in any way and not wanna be around you. hell people with ADHD become very popular due to their hyper active clowning around and become the life and soul of any NTs gatherings....

    its rather unfair of you to accuse a whole group of people of avoiding a mentally unfit person for fear of being seen the same way.... that doesnt happen.... alot of people have fucked up friends, no one cares, infact it makes them more caring towards them and more wanting to help them.

    perhaps you have this view because you blame your autism on everyone else then instead of owning it and owning the symptoms of your condition? ..... you not being able to get along with NTs and be part of their group isnt them.... its you.... its part of your condition.... 

    same with me too, i cant blame everyone in the world for rejecting me, part of that blame is on me for not knowing how to meld with them all and join their society or communicate with them.... we cant blame them all the time, they dont care what you have, they want to be your friend, they want to be everyones friend, but its our condition that stops that and how we cant make it socially, not them not wanting to be associated... theyd love to be associated but cant because we dont go out and socialise and maintain our social link with them or communicate with them, this isnt their fault... this is our fault... by default we are the problem lol we cannot get along with them, but they can get along with everyone and they are happy to get along with many other disabled and ill type people which disproved your assumption about them. they will be associated with anyone no matter how ill that person is. the problem is within ourselves, not within them.... cant blame everyone else all the time, it impedes personal growth.

  • i lowered the age on purpose to drill he point home as a example.... tbh i was thinking of using 5 years old as a example instead but i think 5 years old is probably too young for any sane person to let out... i could be wrong though. but yeah i generally use example based wording.... hell when i wanna say a high number, i dont say the precise number, like 675 i instead say 10000000000000000000000000 and over-exagurate. people never get these things which is weird as to me they are a basic level of communication and comprehension and yet neither NTs or ASDs understand it or even understand examples lol

    anyways i consider my sister daft too for letting her son out to the local park unattended, he sometimes goes with this younger daughter of my sisters boyfreinds sister who im not sure what her age is but im pretty sure its gotta be around the 10 age unless im just bad at guessing ages, but defo too young to be allowed to go out alone with her kid to the park, especially as other kids are dicks and my sisters kid is the type to be a target for older bully kids and isnt exactly good enough to defend himself. plus there have been asians in vans snatching kids from round where she lives too and yet she still lets him out unattended.

  • To start off with, what you were commenting was not helpful. How many of my posts have you read because the more you read them, the better understanding you would have. 

    but hey ho i didnt get abducted by child grooming gangs which are all too common now.

    That's great news Caelus, I'm so proud! Yes, it's all very common now, to the point where an attempted kidnap happened in our close, where we lived, full of children, happened, right in front of both my daughter's, and many other's eyes. It was scary because that could've been my daughter but now she is scarred for life and I've explained earlier, that she has nightmares about it, she remembers the exact date and now has a complete fear of men and it effected her a lot. Home was meant to be her safe place but ever since that day, one sudden noise spooks her, especially when she is home alone, which she hated anyway but now refuses completely. 

    if that kid goes out and gets hurt, thats not the kids fault, thats the parents fault due to being the parents charge. legally speaking... i think this is why alot of parents get done for neglect or get social services knocking at their door for how they are not ensuring their charge is safe.

    Yes that's true and if I nearly got her taken away and put into care because she was struggling mentally and she had no coping methods because she didn't understand anything and why she was acting the way she was. 1 thing would mess her day up, like not having the right spoon, bowl, or cereal in the morning and that was it, she would explode and leave the house and they said I was neglecting her because I couldn't keep her safe because she would leave the house and hurt herself because she was in a very tricky dark place. It was horrible for everyone. That's why I try to keep the doors locked but then it's a prison and now she will jump the fence so I now keep the doors unlocked. I've explained this so many times in my posts but because I guess you haven't read any because you can't get her age right, I thought I'd keep you up to date with what I have to deal with. 

    In shorter words, if I lock her in, it's a prison and she will want to escape and will jump our fence, gate, whatever. And although I'm trying to keep her safe, she can't have a social life because she's locked in, which she does have btw,  That's why I now keep the front door unlocked. It's all very confusing so read my other threads before you comment something like you did. Thanks 

  • Lastly - this looks quite good: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/page/3162D547-A2B8-4DA8-A6F5-2A7EECD097AE?ingress=3

    It has a few good herbs and might be a good alternative to melatonin if that sound like something you'd like to try.

  • so are you ok with her saying that your suffocating your kid and saying your bad and silly for wanting to protect them? because thats what she seems to be saying here for the sake of harrassing me all over this site as usual lol

    hell this weird stalker woman would say that hitler is a good man to contradict me saying he was bad. funny thing is everyone would also agree with her then because shes a trained sociopath as she told me she has been trained and took lessons on how to warp words and make her words aestetic lol

  • You may not need the melatonin eventually if she takes something like Ashwaganda which helps regulate the endocrine system. A quick search will bring up that there is nothing conflicting.

    But definitely let her GP know what she's taking.

    Ususally if suppliments conflict she'll get a new kind of headache. So, best to start low-dose. You could even see if upping her vitamins and promoting healthy hormone function will allow her to ease off the melatonin. Good luck! 

  • Thank you for this. I will definitely look into it and see if they have any in stock. At the moment she's taking rescue remedies, which seem to help, especially at night since she takes Melatonin in a liquid form. Definitely seen an improving in her sleeping. Thanks for all the advice on all the posts. We've certainly came a long way from last year but still improving and working things out so thanks. 

  • https://www.togetherhealth.co.uk has both Ashwaganda and a womens multi. They're buy 1 get 1 1/2 at H&B occasionally.

    I'd try a few different ones over the next year or so. She seems aware in a way that she'll probably notice the difference in these. 

  • Oh you can get Ashwaganda from Boots or Holland and Barrett. Pukkas has a good blend, too - a little more expensive.

    The most important thing I've discovered is to start with a 1/4 or 1/2 dose 3-4 days a week. 

    For a mulit Vitamin, look for one designed for young women. Some can be a little more expensive. But again, I'd take half or 1/3 the recommended dose to start.

  • That's great news! I might try that. Can you get it from the local Pharmacy? 

  • I take a half dose of a multi daily and it has made a massive difference since my 20s. My son does as well now and it's changed his depression substantially. Could be worth while. My son takes a micro-dose of aswaganda which also is helpful for anxiety. We've tried everything with him. but between that and rigorous exersize it seems to have worked magic.

  • I agree with you here. They need to watch there mouth. My children witnessed the friend's attempted kidnap a few years ago and they will never forget about it. They have nightmares because it could've been them. And there were kids out playing in a close and it was outside everyone's house. I fear this will happen to my kids, it can happen to anyone even with parents next to them. It all happens very quickly. I know someone who was raped, in the town where my daughter goes to school, so when she's out wandering, that's why I get worried. 

  • One thing worth exploring is How all Humans respond to Overload, crushing scenarios, End-Of-The world transformations - when they flip into a survival instinct or are at their absolute Wits End.

    In movies, characters do crazy things when everything goes well beyond their limit. Some cut thier hair and add war paint to thier face. Some execute extreme sport mode. Some find their inner super hero powers at that moment. Witches conjour lighting. ...Pufferfish die from puffing up under extreme stress.

    The point is to eliminate everything causeing stress. Emotional, psychological, physical / biological stress. As you describe, she's continually in Apocolyptic Mode. 

  • To start off with, we believed her behavior was due to a hormonal imbalance but she had blood tests and all was fine. All her behavior started at the start of secondary school and ever since then, we've got professional in and she's been diagnosed and now the majority of the behavior makes sense from when she was younger. 

    Earlier, she had 2 meltdowns, one at home and one swimming. Earlier, she got all wound up and overloaded, exploded and her breathing becomes rapid, shorter and quicker, so there is less oxygen reaching her brain and then all of a sudden she stopped, become still and took a few stumbles and fell onto the sofa, and came out of it a few seconds after. She explained to me that her vision went, her hearing went and she was dizzy. I explained this to her dad and he said it was a faint. She also suffers with Postural Hypotension and faints due to this, mainly when she gets up in the morning, due to getting up too quickly. But this time was just different because she wasn't standing up long and she wasn't breathing normally. So we don't believe it was due to getting up too quickly but it could be. Not sure but we will see the doctor.

  • Ok. New subject. Did she meltdown or is there something biological here. 

    Many young women can suffer from hormone imbalance. I would arrange to see the GP. Fainting can be from heat exhaustion. It can also be from an imbalance easily remedied with a multi and/or herbal suppliments. x

  • I do wonder if she performs these 'worrying' actions next to cars when you're not around, as you've mentioned before she does seem to be reactionary

    Yes, she only does it when she's out with teachers or by herself and never with a parent. I've caught her many times when I've popped to the shop. It's confusing me