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Hello all.

Does anyone else lives in a flat?

I am curious to know if any one else has or ever had downstairs neighbors where there are more people in the property than should be living in there. Or who makes comments about you and the way you live, or the way they percieve you to be and live.

What I have is, a middle aged couple where the female claims to be physically disabled despite me seeing her walking perfectly fine with her crutch well above the floor and who is always shouting and swearing; and a male who is very large in terms of stomach size and who are both clearly compulsive liars.

Before I moved into this flat me and my dad knocked on their door to see who lived there, the female answered and was very nervous looking and quiet voiced, when we said that I might be moving into the area soon, she very quickly said that it was just her and her husband living there and that her husband was her carer.

So I chose to move in because it seemed as though it was just a middle aged couple that would be living there, who didnt seem any trouble from how she portrayed herself. Also when I viewed the flat the floors and walls felt very solid.

However, as soon as I moved in my flat last year November, almost every morning there would be hammering in the bedroom early in the morning. I could hear many different voices, constant shouting, children screaming and crying and doors slamming. This has been a regular thing ever since then and still persists every day like clockwork.

I ended up telling my parents and they came with me to their door and I knocked on it and they opened the door. I asked who the tenant was and asked if they could stop the door slamming as it was getting too much it was literally every 10 minutes.

The man who said he was the tenant said to me it wasnt them it was the people next door to them. I didnt believe them nor did my parents. My dad told them if it keeps happening we will get in touch with the Environmental Health department, who can tell where the noise is coming from.

Since then the door slamming has never happened again, however I keep hearing comments made about me, and I make sure I am careful to not jump to conclusions before making the judgement; the list so far is:

- I woke up at 10am one day and the female said "It's a strange time to get up at 10am"

- "He is only young, can't be much to worry about"

- One day their bathroom door slammed and the woman said "he's talking" and he replied to her "I've already slammed the bathroom door"

- "I'm going to mess with his mind"

- "Is that him in the kitchen, if it is he is making a lot of noise" (I was washing up)

- "He is the type of person who always has his ear to the wall, listening to everything you are saying and doing"

- One day I had my girlfriend over my place and we opened the curtains because it was sunny and the female said "they are looking at me from the window, they try to break me, oh they do"

- "He is in the bath at 3 o clock, what a weirdo" (I had been on an english course and wanted to unwind and relax.

These are some of the comments so far that I have written to remember, not all that have been said. Also, I have one of those 'click, click' bathroom light switches, and they do to because I hear it go, and almost every time I use the toilet and use the switch 'click, click' as it turns on or off, they do theirs twice straight after, but twice 'click, click.. click, click' in rapid succession.

I know it sounds petty but it makes me uncomfortable. I have never been loud or any type of nuisance since moving in, I have always had any music or tv on quietly, I even asked them the day I knocked about the door slamming if there were any issues with my noise and they both said no, the female even said "if there was an issue I'd tell you to your face" so I dont feel their behavior is a retaliation of some sort.

I feel that what ever I do or say I cannot win with these people, I feel they are being unreasonable and selfish, not considering the reality that I am an extremely considerate neighbor who is quiet and friendly, I myself used to have upstairs neighbors who purposely kept me awake until 5pm every night, and I mean every night. So I am very considerate moreso because I know what it is like to have an upstairs who is selfish or cruel.

I have gone to my landlord privately about the issue because I do not want repercussions if they find out I am affected by their behavior, some times I think they dont even realise I can hear their comments.

They said they may look at rehousing me due to my disability (Aspergers') but said that they thought 'I' was the problem, that I am sensitive and struggle functioning 'in general' which I think is very rude, and anyway I have a part-time job and do all my own cooking, cleaning and have done since 18 years of age, so I don't know where they have got that information from.

Sorry for the massive amount of information, I just really feel so affected by all of this and really feel I need to share with others.

Charlie, 24

London

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  • It appears to be a common problem for everyone who lives in a flat there are stories all over the internet. 

    Yes music is a great tool drown out neighbor noise, if in the day you usually can't get in trouble from your landlord!

    What sort of things did they used to say about you? Do you think they knew you could hear them? Have you tried meditation to help sleep, it helps me, I have recordings for meditation for anxiety, depression, sleep, social anxiety and more. You can download them from YouTube. The person I listen to is called Michael Sealey. 

    Yes thin walls are horrible, I can relate as in the past I had thin walls, you can hear everything they do and vice versa. What's funny though is that a lot of neighbors who create a whole heap of unecessary noise tend to also dislike when you make noise, that's how all mine have been past and present!

    I don't doubt it is deliberate that they talk about you on the landing on purpose, that's how people can be, people give advice about those sort of things saying to ignore but it is difficult, however know that people who do that behaviour are childish and can't really be happy in their own lives or happy with who they are if they make comments of others in this way.

    It is irritating trying to move, the unreasonable ones should be made to move! I have swapped many times and every time the person tells you a random excuse or why they want to move, but it is always because of their neighbors. 

    Ive almost always got my headphones on with music, I also leave a fan on most of the time for ambient background noise.

    Thank you I think I may get moved in the end because I have a meeting scheduled with my landlord soon to discuss housing options, I am going to explain that it's not just noise there are drug problems in my block and local area and is not suitable for me and the disability I have. Should prompt some action.

    I haven't looked on this site yet about noise sensitivity, however I might consider counselling or meditation / hypnosis and see if that works. 

    Its a shame there isn't a landlord who creates flats just for people with Aspergers and autism where your neighbors would be the same and understand you! Most of all would be reasonable and considerate.

    Charlie

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  • It appears to be a common problem for everyone who lives in a flat there are stories all over the internet. 

    Yes music is a great tool drown out neighbor noise, if in the day you usually can't get in trouble from your landlord!

    What sort of things did they used to say about you? Do you think they knew you could hear them? Have you tried meditation to help sleep, it helps me, I have recordings for meditation for anxiety, depression, sleep, social anxiety and more. You can download them from YouTube. The person I listen to is called Michael Sealey. 

    Yes thin walls are horrible, I can relate as in the past I had thin walls, you can hear everything they do and vice versa. What's funny though is that a lot of neighbors who create a whole heap of unecessary noise tend to also dislike when you make noise, that's how all mine have been past and present!

    I don't doubt it is deliberate that they talk about you on the landing on purpose, that's how people can be, people give advice about those sort of things saying to ignore but it is difficult, however know that people who do that behaviour are childish and can't really be happy in their own lives or happy with who they are if they make comments of others in this way.

    It is irritating trying to move, the unreasonable ones should be made to move! I have swapped many times and every time the person tells you a random excuse or why they want to move, but it is always because of their neighbors. 

    Ive almost always got my headphones on with music, I also leave a fan on most of the time for ambient background noise.

    Thank you I think I may get moved in the end because I have a meeting scheduled with my landlord soon to discuss housing options, I am going to explain that it's not just noise there are drug problems in my block and local area and is not suitable for me and the disability I have. Should prompt some action.

    I haven't looked on this site yet about noise sensitivity, however I might consider counselling or meditation / hypnosis and see if that works. 

    Its a shame there isn't a landlord who creates flats just for people with Aspergers and autism where your neighbors would be the same and understand you! Most of all would be reasonable and considerate.

    Charlie

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