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IntenseWorld said:Likewise, although publicised research does not support that autism is caused by vaccinations, it isn't proven not to be linked either, it's just on the available research and current understanding.
Remember, open mind.
Those who are fervent without categorical proof risk having proverbial egg on face at some juncture.
You quoted on another part of the community forum USA web links to vaccines and Thiomersal, to which I responded by stating that Thiomersal is NOT in the routine childhood vaccines in the UK, including the MMR vaccine.
So I do agree that those who are fervent without categorical proof risk having proverbial egg on face at some juncture.
zone_tripper said:I have just been reading through this...
icpa4kids.org/.../what-is-biomedical-treatment.html
...My first thought was "...Thimerosal is not in the routine vaccinations given to children in the UK, including MMR, and yet there are still children with Autism being born each year."
(And no, I do NOT believe there is a link between the MMR vaccination and Autism. I believe in the opposite, that there is NO link whatsoever.)
In my opinion, it sounds like snake oil salesmen medical treatment, rather than tried and tested, peer-reviewed, evidence-based medical and psychological interventions of international renown.
Secondly, nobody really know the cause or causes of Autism. It has not been proven conclusively that environmental contaminants cause Autism. Therefore, so called biomedical treatment is applying a treatment to a disease for which there is no established cause.
Notice the article I quote says "...Biomedical intervention for NDs is based on the belief that the psychological symptoms of NDs are a product of the physical issues the child is experiencing..."
The significant word here is "...belief...", not medically proven, evidence based, peer-reviewed, or internationally recognised, etc. Belief in something does not equate to conclusive proof! How can one believe in a treatment when the cause has not been conclusively established?
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My own hunch is that Autism is caused by faulty genes and genetics passed down through blood relations. (One of my uncles had autism, two other uncles battled with depression and alcoholism, and one of my grandmothers had depression.)
This article...
icpa4kids.org/.../what-is-biomedical-treatment.html
...quotes the following:
"...We were very pleased to read the recent cover story in Discover magazine that clearly spells out that autism is “not just in the head” but may actually originate in the gut and from environmental toxins..."
Interestingly, a quick search of the Discover Magazine website shows other articles on Autism...
blogs.discovermagazine.com/.../
discovermagazine.com/.../breakautism
blogs.discovermagazine.com/.../
blogs.discovermagazine.com/.../
...for instance.
It seems that the aforementioned website merely quotes articles and books that seem to support its own environmental toxins theory and not others on the Discover Magazine website.
The following article is of particular relevance...
Likewise, although publicised research does not support that autism is caused by vaccinations, it isn't proven not to be linked either, it's just on the available research and current understanding.
Remember, open mind.
Those who are fervent without categorical proof risk having proverbial egg on face at some juncture.
Of relevance...
www.autism.org.uk/.../biomedical-interventions.aspx
I have just been reading through this...
icpa4kids.org/.../what-is-biomedical-treatment.html
...My first thought was "...Thimerosal is not in the routine vaccinations given to children in the UK, including MMR, and yet there are still children with Autism being born each year."
(And no, I do NOT believe there is a link between the MMR vaccination and Autism. I believe in the opposite, that there is NO link whatsoever.)
In my opinion, it sounds like snake oil salesmen medical treatment, rather than tried and tested, peer-reviewed, evidence-based medical and psychological interventions of international renown.
Secondly, nobody really know the cause or causes of Autism. It has not been proven conclusively that environmental contaminants cause Autism. Therefore, so called biomedical treatment is applying a treatment to a disease for which there is no established cause.
Notice the article I quote says "...Biomedical intervention for NDs is based on the belief that the psychological symptoms of NDs are a product of the physical issues the child is experiencing..."
The significant word here is "...belief...", not medically proven, evidence based, peer-reviewed, or internationally recognised, etc. Belief in something does not equate to conclusive proof! How can one believe in a treatment when the cause has not been conclusively established?
* * * *
My own hunch is that Autism is caused by faulty genes and genetics passed down through blood relations. (One of my uncles had autism, two other uncles battled with depression and alcoholism, and one of my grandmothers had depression.)
Guy500,
Are you please able to recommend any good doctors/clinics providing biomedical treatment for autism in or around London?
Our son, 3.5 years old, has recently been diagonised with ASD. We have already started his GFCF diet but would like to consult a specialist in biomedical treatment to assess what protocol would be best for him.
Thanks in advance!
Vish.
Am clueless..sorry! But personally, I would visit. You generally get a 'feeling' from those places. If they both offer equal amounts then I would visit & trust my instincts on an atmospheric level :-)