Anew government

I predict a vote of no confidence in Keith Starmer within a few months and Jeremy Corbyn replacing him as a true socialist prime minister. 

Corbyn replacing Starmer would be the death knell of Labour as a serious political party. I didn't vote for him as leader of the party in 2015, as I firmly believed he wasn't capable enough to do the job. I voted for Yvette Cooper instead. When he became leader I hoped against hope that he'd prove me wrong. I regarded him as an ineffectual but decent politician.  Over the course of time  he failed more and more to prove me wrong as to his leadership qualities. Despite that I voted Labour in both 2017 and 2019. It's his behaviour after being replaced as leader that has resulted in my thinking he's neither a good person or a good politician. Much of that centres round his  narcissistic refusal to denounce the atrocious behaviour of many of his most ardent supporters. That's not the behaviour of a decent person.

Corbyn replacing Starmer would be the death knell of Labour as a serious political party. I didn't vote for him as leader of the party in 2015, as I firmly believed he wasn't capable enough to do the job. I voted for Yvette Cooper instead. When he became leader I hoped against hope that he'd prove me wrong. I regarded him as an ineffectual but decent politician.  Over the course of time  he failed more and more to prove me wrong as to his leadership qualities. Despite that I voted Labour in both 2017 and 2019. It's his behaviour after being replaced as leader that has resulted in my thinking he's neither a good person or a good politician. Much of that centres round his  narcissistic refusal to denounce the atrocious behaviour of many of his most ardent supporters. That's not the behaviour of a decent person.

Agree I try and look for the good in any party but generally extreme left or right are as bad as each other

Interesting point. Communist societies all treated autistic and other neurodivergent people terribly. However, I suppose the clear rules and expectations of a communist society might appeal to us. 

What I find interesting is that the only party who has spoken about neurodivergent people and supporting SEN children at all in this election is Reform. Doesn't exactly tally with how the media has sought to portray them 

I was a child during the winter of discontent and whilst it was sort of fun sitting by candle light and playing board games with my parents of an evening, I was aware of how hard it was for others. We were lucky in that we had a gas fire and cooker so we could have hot food and stay warm, but many others were not so lucky.

I remember the winter of discontent too. I was living with my father, when not in one of the psych wards of our local hospital.I was cocooned from the effects of it  due to my father  being reasonably well off. He was a Foreign  office inspector. He was the equivalent of an army brigadier.

Agree.

Dear all I am now going too leave this discussion as I feel we are getting very deep into Politics and Religion which is a very private and personal matter and forgetting that we are on here to support each other with how society is treating Neurodivergent People .

I wish you all well and thanks

I don't see how thats going to be as Starmer has openly said that he supports a free Palestinian state and that what Israel is doing is wrong. Don't forget there are lots of Israeli's that want to two state solution and lots of Muslims who don't have a problem with Jews.

I agree that is why I want as much money as possible to go to the less well off and why I want a low tax economy it works and the less well of have a better standard of living.

I just have to say as far as Patrick Vallance goes he was Mr Lockdown that helped wreck the economy there was a better scientist who Sunetra Gupta who explained with pandemics that you have to get herd immunity.No one listened to her modelling or the economic effect so Professor valance does not fill me with hope James Timpson yes.Also although it can seem unfair and I can get upset we all have to accept in life some people are richer than us are better at sport etc.In fact when I look at the rich I would not want t be them

That would be good you have cheered me up now

It's an open secret that Starmer is pro jewish because his wife is jewish.  This will lead to an internal civil war in the Labour Party with its Labour muslim MPs and a return to a Conservative government. 

Being old enough to remember the Winter of Discontent and all the other problems caused by overmight unions, I dreaded the idea of a Corbyn government or more precisely one where the likes of John MacDonald pulling the strings. Some of what Corbyn wanted was great, but the way he wanted to go about it wasn't. I remember seeing MacDonald telling some interviewer that the elderly didn't need to worry about housing anymore as jeremy would build them a house! I thought what, with his own bare hands?

There's a grimness to their sort of socialism that I really don't like, having been involved in it and around it for much of my youth, I became very disillussioned with it and it all started to become more and more like Monty Pythons 3 Yorkshiremen sketch. The worse thing was the feeling that they were serious about wanting bleakness. I also think that they would of rolled back on womens rights in favour of "the working man", that's also something I remember from those years, the way that they wanted women to remain as housewives, how they didn't want women in their unions.

I agree with firemonkey about the antisemitism, Corbyn has never accepted it as an issue in the Labour party. The odd thing is that the antisemitic arguements I've heard from the left are the same ones that I've heard from the right.

I'm politically homeless, I don't support any party, in fact I think that parties are part of the problem with politics, which takes precedence, the constituents or the party?

Starmer seems to have the ground running from what I was reading earlier, he's met the leaders of the devolved nations because he wants to work more constructively with them, Lammy's been doing similar in Europe and the Defence minister has been in Ukraine reassuring them of our continued support. I hope he keeps on in this way and sort out some other problems as quickly.

I notice he seems to be reaching outside of the normal political networks and putting people with real experience into roles where they've been working privately, like Lord Timpson, who's been working with offenders, training them and giving them jobs in his shoe repair business for years.  Sir Patrick Valence as Science Minister, also seems a good appointment, actually having two people in cabinet that actually know something about thier brief and how it works in the real world is quite revolutionary on government terms. Usually people with experience outside of parliament are kept away from the roles where they have prior knowlege, so as not to upset any apple carts, no wonder government dosen't work!

I think it depends on which supermarket really, whether you shop at at Lidl or M&S, we might all pay the same prices on paper, but what we can afford to spend our money on is another matter. If all you can afford is cheap rubbish, then you will have an overweight and unhealthy population and a healthy diet becomes the preserve of the better off. It's not only about what food you can afford, but what food you can afford to cook with fuel prices being so high.

Agree however Labour are as bad they do not like success and my local council which is definately socialist has been very intolerant to my Autism.I find socialism has been intolerant to my Autism and my sisters OCD .We have experienced really stupid comments when we applied for a blue badge for instance under hidden disabilities a word I hate and they were awful.

So what I am saying is left and right there are bad apples I have tried to be less triple now and would like a parliament of talent not of the parties

I just wish we can move away from the crass, uncivilised, stance taken by the Tories whereby doing well in the genetic lottery of life saw such people being lavishly praised. Not doing well resulted in people being demonised. I want a more civilised,decent, and intelligent, UK than that.

But the point is as long as we make sure everyone can eat heat and live a dignified life I do not think we can decide who pays more than others a fair flat rate tax system is the best way then you maximise revenue it is just gesture politics Labour tried in the 1970s to have tax rates over 80% and it failed.

Also if we are going to take a view of who pays what why do we all pay the same price in the supermarket.

I think as long as people are not evading tax and being a good citizen good luck to them.

It is like in life I would love to be a professional footballer but I am not people that are wealthy have often done amazing risk taking things that I would not be capable of.Sorry for the waffle but I want what everyone wants which is fairness and a good society and you get the using the above

I prefer Ed Miliband to David Miliband(I don't dislike him)  but agree that it would've been more politically pragmatic if David Miliband had won the contest. More being raised is fine. What isn't fine is the increasing gap wealth wise between those who are already very well off and those who are less fortunate.

Thanks for your reply I find Corbyn as bad as Farage and he needs calling out.I still say with Labour their biggest mistake was not electing David Miliband he was and still is a tremendous person with so much to give.He also ended up with Andy Burnham leaving and many other heavyweight MPS.I took the view that if these people had stayed in the Tories being sensible which in my view they were until Brexit we would have had a political landscape where it would not have been worrying who gets in.

My issue with Labour is they raise taxes and Rachel Reeves although relatively centre ground has plans on CGT pensions and non does that will lower our tax take.Blair understood let the rich be successful and you actually raise more