A sense of entitlement

Why do so many people have a sense of entitlement?

I was discussing this with a friend at the weekend and we couldn't really get to the bottom of it, other than perhaps it's just been a slow erosion of society and work ethic.

They don't work, but are entitled to (net) taxpayers money, so they can have things that taxpayers can't afford, to live in areas that those taxpayers can't afford, to have holidays, to not work a job they don't want to, to be entitled to an easy and well paid job. That they have "rights" that must be treated as gospel, but not any responsibilities that are tied to those rights. That rules are just for "someone else", a whole attitude that everyone else owes them a living etc. 

What is the flawed mental process where people decide that they are entitled to things just because they want them? How can anyone even attempt to justify that "want" means "entitled"?

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  • You'll be pleased to hear that I'm going to leave these forums.  I shouldn't have got involved with this thread as this is stuff that really gets me going, and brings out my demons.  I make no apologies for being outspoken, though I'm sorry for the language used and for getting too personal.  I don't find these forums as helpful as I'd thought I would and I don't want to upset others any more.  I need to find some peace after some recent problems so it's probably best if I stay offline. I've been drinking heavily for a few months and stuff like this makes it get more out of hand.


  • You'll be pleased to hear that I'm going to leave these forums.  I shouldn't have got involved with this thread as this is stuff that really gets me going, and brings out my demons. 

    Obviously (or maybe actually not yet) I am not pleased to read you are leaving, not at all. And dealing with the demons thing is an important aspect of many people's experience ~ which I respect given my experience of so doing.


    I make no apologies for being outspoken, though I'm sorry for the language used and for getting too personal. 

    You need make no apology for being outspoken, that much is certain, and your apology for the language you used is accepted completely as far as I am concerned, for you show both honour and integrity in so doing, and that is respectable.


    I don't find these forums as helpful as I'd thought I would and I don't want to upset others any more.

    Perhaps consider that when social clangers occur, they are addressed and apologised for here, and that is that. Quite a few of us are complete and utter experts at pulling of the old proverbial social plain, train and car wrecks all in one spot. In relative terms you might need to get a few dents out of the bodywork, but definitely not a write off session.


    I need to find some peace after some recent problems so it's probably best if I stay offline. I've been drinking heavily for a few months and stuff like this makes it get more out of hand.

    Finding some peace off line is perfectly understandable, and respectable, given the nature of learning curves and all that. Perhaps though consider making your time offline 'some' time, in the temporary sense, rather than anything permanent, maybe?

    I do though respect and support your decision either way, especially if you decide to stay over the longer term. :-)

    Have (at least eventually) a good one ~ full of many many more

    DT


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  • You'll be pleased to hear that I'm going to leave these forums.  I shouldn't have got involved with this thread as this is stuff that really gets me going, and brings out my demons. 

    Obviously (or maybe actually not yet) I am not pleased to read you are leaving, not at all. And dealing with the demons thing is an important aspect of many people's experience ~ which I respect given my experience of so doing.


    I make no apologies for being outspoken, though I'm sorry for the language used and for getting too personal. 

    You need make no apology for being outspoken, that much is certain, and your apology for the language you used is accepted completely as far as I am concerned, for you show both honour and integrity in so doing, and that is respectable.


    I don't find these forums as helpful as I'd thought I would and I don't want to upset others any more.

    Perhaps consider that when social clangers occur, they are addressed and apologised for here, and that is that. Quite a few of us are complete and utter experts at pulling of the old proverbial social plain, train and car wrecks all in one spot. In relative terms you might need to get a few dents out of the bodywork, but definitely not a write off session.


    I need to find some peace after some recent problems so it's probably best if I stay offline. I've been drinking heavily for a few months and stuff like this makes it get more out of hand.

    Finding some peace off line is perfectly understandable, and respectable, given the nature of learning curves and all that. Perhaps though consider making your time offline 'some' time, in the temporary sense, rather than anything permanent, maybe?

    I do though respect and support your decision either way, especially if you decide to stay over the longer term. :-)

    Have (at least eventually) a good one ~ full of many many more

    DT


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  • ~ I feel that I owe you an apology myself, as upon rereading the community rules post I wrote to you, I realised I had erred considerably in the first paragraph.

    My understanding and comprehension of the mind-body relationship is rather in depth, and I talk and write causally about things that most take as a summation of their character, rather than as an aspect of it. Thus when you spoke of 'demons' being brought on ~ the moral and ethical aspects I described were relative to those aspects of you, and only those aspects of you, rather than you as a sum harmonic. In terms of being a sum harmonic, I mean by this that we all have aspects of us that are of the lesser evil, and of the lesser good, but the greater good of us, that I respect wholly and completed in all.

    So I give a full and complete apology without reservation for my poor wording in the first paragraph, and as such I am sorry.