Hello I am almost 20 and I really hate it when there is a lot of ignorant people out there in this world like when they say that we should not have or we cannot have some free events and other free things including like food, water and more others for all ages when they should not even say that at all as it is wrong, unfair, makes me more angry, discrimination based on age and also when nobody is ever too old to have everything for free so I just really want for people's bad attitude there to also stop as they should be happy that some things are free and should be for everyone regardless of age and other factors.
What things are free? I don't think I understand what you are saying.
Are you saying that it's unfair that food, water and other things (What other things?) are not free for everyone?
Or are you saying that some people get these things for free and you feel it's unfair because you don't? Who are the people who get these things for free?
Like Endymion, I'm not really sure what it is you're objecting to. The point your trying to make is a little difficult to follow.
I don't think water should ever be free. It's a precious resource, and if you made it free, people would simply be more wasteful with it. Free food? Well... maybe in the sense of donations to people in desperate need, or as aid relief, yes. But not as a general principle. Everything we use and consume has a cost attached to it, unfortunately.
I'd be more in favour of a fairer distribution of wealth in society, so that everyone could have a decent standard of living and better access to necessities like healthcare, education, etc. So many people stockpile their wealth, while others are homeless or starving.
This puts it into some context. I've checked and re-checked the figures, and they're accurate:
I agree with Endymion and Tom in that I don't really understand what you mean.
I'll also say that those things aren't free, food needs to be planted, grown, fertilised, harvested, packaged and distributed. Water needs to be captured, filtered, purified, piped around the country, tested for safety etc. so there is a cost associated with doing that. There is no "free", rather there is "paid for by someone else", if you're saying that you want the state to provide "free" food and water then that means my taxes will have to go up, if you want something that has a cost for free, that means that it has to be paid for by someone else.
There is no such thing as a free lunch, pretty much apart from air and sunlight there isn't free anything, it has to be paid for by someone, even if it's not the person consuming it.
Oh sorry everyone I thought you would all might understand what I am saying when I said that certain things in our everyday lives should be free like food, water and shelter as they are essential to life.
Sholay09 said:Oh sorry everyone I thought you would all might understand what I am saying when I said that certain things in our everyday lives should be free like food, water and shelter.
There is no such thing as free, they have to be paid for by someone, either the person using/consuming them or someone else, free doesn't exist.
I'm very confused here Sholay09, you have voted 'up' each of our comments despite them not necessarily being in agreement with your original point!? Or have I wildly misunderstood your original point? I feel dizzy ...
Oh sorry I made a mistake as I do hate it when people do not seem to agree with me on something like that.
I think disagreement should be the basis of further discussion - not hatred. I get disconcerted if my own opinions are challenged - but I'm always prepared to listen to what the other person has to say. Sometimes, I even end up changing or moderating my own beliefs as a consequence.
Food, water and shelter are basic essentials of life, yes - as per Maslow's hierarchy of needs - but that still doesn't mean they need to be free. Food can be intensely costly to produce. Houses need to be built, by people who are paid to build them, using materials that have to be produced by people paid to produce them. If they were then simply given away - how are the builders and producers to be paid for their labour and materials?
Ideally, of course, everything would be free. But then people wouldn't have any incentive to work to produce the stuff. I like the idea of self-sufficiency - being able to build my own shelter, grow my own food, etc. Such things can be done very cheaply. It's actually remarkable, once you pare things down to our basic needs, how little an income we would all need. I live on what is assessed (in our society) as a 'below-the-poverty-line' income. Yet I'm not impoverished, financially or spiritually, because I don't need much money to live on. I'm happy with a frugal, basic life. But not everyone wants to live on survival incomes (unfortunately). It's a deeply unfair world, too, with the way wealth is distributed, and with people starving when there is food enough. But making things like water, food and shelter free... well... maybe you could explain how that might work, taking everything into account.
I agree with Martian Tom, it would be an interesting discussion about how self-sufficiency would work on a grand scale.
I'd also like to know who the "ignorant people" are, because I think both sides of the debate could be given quite intelligently. There are many sources of information out there to ensure that neither side would need to be ignorant of either their own perspective or, indeed, the opposing one.
Sholay09 said:that we should not have or we cannot have some free events and other free things including like food, water and more others for all ages when they should not even say that at all as it is wrong, unfair, makes me more angry,
Glad Tidings to all, here. I might regret contributing here... yet I think that I can see something in both opposing points-of-view. This indeed could turn into a very long discussion, yet I may begin from a very simplified standpoint:
In a City, these things must be paid for, in exchange for "maintaining a city and saftey within it". (Plumbing, Police, Healthcare, Politics... etc.)
...Without (not within) a City... these things are "free"... because they are Natural.
All of this depends upon your own Age, Job, Inheritance, Social Status...
...And I Post all of that in wondering... might that sort of thing be what you are trying to say, Miss Sholay09...?