Ignorant people

Dear sholay09 I can see exactly what you mean.I think?

in certain tribes in some countries the people have no money, they hunt together to eat, they work together to build shelter, water is preciouse and  great effort is made in some tribes to collect it and use it wisely.

so your point of view is valid.

May I ask you have you suddenly just been told you no longer are allowed an allowance or some kind of support to help you continue to live as you always have?

you need not answer my question if you chose not to.

as a young boy I always questioned why things had to keep going up in price? Why some had loads of money and some had none.

yes it is a simplistic view but if we were to go back to basic fundamental life all we need is.

All working together to feed and give shelter to each other, 

I for one would love to live a life of working with others just to survive, all working as one. To feed care and support one another.

 Sadly mankind has decided there must be money, money is not good as those who have most of it control those who have little or none.

it is a greedy based concept, devoid of humanity.

I wish you happiness, please keep posting or talking, if you want to vote up just because it makes you happy or stops you feeling angry then feel free to do so.

Maybe you voted them up as it gave you some kind of fear that you said things they didn’t appear to agree on, or understand.kind of i am sorry you did not agree with me, sorry.

i May have all this wrong but you seem to be a young minded kind person who is struggling to see how life can be so strange and unfair?

take care, and thank you for talking to us,

Even in those types of tribes though, some members / families have more cattle than others and cattle = wealth in such communities (rather than our idea of money = wealth). Those families tend to have bigger / better equipped houses than families with fewer or no cattle. 

What does make those tribal families more equal, if not equal in terms of wealth, is that everyone does have to gather their own water and farm their own fields / fish from their own boats. These things (crops / fish) are bartered too, just like we exchange money for goods here, so they're not so different from us really.

None of the things (water, crops, meat, fish) are free because every member of the tribe contributes their time, effort, hard work into gathering these things - all day, every day.   

Life is unfair though, I think most of us would agree with that when considering how events such as the banking crisis affected blue-collar workers much more than the big bankers despite it being them who caused the crisis.   

Even in those types of tribes though, some members / families have more cattle than others and cattle = wealth in such communities (rather than our idea of money = wealth). Those families tend to have bigger / better equipped houses than families with fewer or no cattle. 

What does make those tribal families more equal, if not equal in terms of wealth, is that everyone does have to gather their own water and farm their own fields / fish from their own boats. These things (crops / fish) are bartered too, just like we exchange money for goods here, so they're not so different from us really.

None of the things (water, crops, meat, fish) are free because every member of the tribe contributes their time, effort, hard work into gathering these things - all day, every day.   

Life is unfair though, I think most of us would agree with that when considering how events such as the banking crisis affected blue-collar workers much more than the big bankers despite it being them who caused the crisis.   

Hello sholay09 I hope I understand, you obviously care for other people very much.

Have you seen or heard   something that has upset you?, starving children or people in war  areas struggling to just live?

this sort of new information can be difficult to understand when others seem to have so much.

wishing you well, this is an unfair world,

x()x

hi spotty, so where shall set up our  hive?

packing a few basic needs right now, so that is me and erm? Me.!

there are a few still surviving,and yes even they compromise,to exhist when you don’t fit means adapting to fit best you can given your think differently to the masses, hey! Hang on! Isn’t that just like my life as an aspie?

sure is,i do whatever I can to coexhist in a society I do not understand or agree with, I have no choice,

to try and live outside it’s rules I would struggle as everything is owned or controlled by Someone!

thank you my hippy friend,peace  and love  To you and all., x()x()x()x.the four hippies Lol.

Thank you for some of the people that agree with me when I said that life is unfair and for saying that some things or everything would or should be free like food and water especially as I would like for someone to understand what I mean and what I am saying.

Thank you,i  just saw the original poster struggling like your Daughter to see why mankind should own the most basic needs in life and deny them to those with nothing or any means to earn them,

she isvif coarse very right in her thinking, sadly Society has to keep pedalling as we have decided this race is to be run this way, x()x

Ah Lone, a soul after my own heart, I have dreamed about that same hippieish commune many times, doing what you can to contribute and a 'hive' that looks out for it's own, but with due respect for all others too. Alas I think we are hopelessly naive. ()()()

No! You haven't offended me at all! I like discussions like this where people can debate different points of view, I think it's interesting and healthy for us all to think differently and it's only by listening to different points of view that I find I can learn new things. 

I remember a similar discussion years ago with my teenage daughter who was complaining that female sanitary products aren't free. While i could agree with her that it did seem unfair, men do often need to buy razors because their job demands that they be clean-shaven. It's not a perfect analogy but, in a perfect world, all of these things would ideally be free.

We certainly don't live in a perfect world but some things have improved, like us being able to chat on here despite being hundreds of miles apart! 

just to add as a young person none of the cost made sense to me either?

I had simplistic views, to live,to help others to live, I would grow crops to feed and others would help. If they couldn’t then they could exhist in my tribe doing whatever they could to keep living with me,

so if I suddenly could no longer work hard I could cook, or wash,or care for the young. Just coexist in a joint mind to keep living with whatever we could create amongst ourselves,

yes so very simplistic, 

mankind has forgotten that this planet belongs to all beings, not owned by few.

We have lost our way big time, be greedy, surround ourselves in modern wants and desires, for What? To be better than the Joneses?

If I could find a hippy commune that truly worked I would be off today. Self sufficiency, a community based on love and kindness, those who can do one thing supported by others who can do other things, 

x()x to all, peace and love( no charge for the hugs,all free)

Edited to correctvmany joined upbwords, my keyboard is playing up.

Hi Endymion I agree totally with what you are saying,,,,but, to try and understand the original question I assumed they were unable to see why the most basic things in life have to have a cost in monetary terms, a cost at all. Surely if you need wealth of  any kind But are unable to work or need support then this is a wrong way of society to discriminate towards those that have nothing from no fault of their own?

so if you need help or support but cannot pay you   die because society says it must be paid for or bartered for.

The tribes i  had in mind but didn’t describe sufficiently all work together for a common goal. No hierarchy . Maybe I should have been more specific,?

i don’t always give full information as in dates,times,I have poor memory facilities due to dyslexia, mostly memory but also eye to brain,brain to hand coordination.

maybe if I had said neolithic  or cave man tribes.?

taking it back to the most basic of needs and not based on wealth or ability to own more animals.

to just live and help others live! Survival as a team?

sorry I May have offended you,i May have offended the original poster by suggesting they are child like in their thoughts?

not my intention. I just read the words as written and took it to be from a young mind not understanding mankind’s greed.the unfairness of wealth as a means to suppress poverty,

 X()x to all.