Struggling

So I'm trying desperately not to succumb to my flight response currently and stay on the forum. Thank you mods for your understanding and patience.

It's quite big for me, as last year it was part of the reason for quitting my last job, (along with working to complete exhaustion). We had a work Discord server which was 'the office', but my anxiety started spiralling, I started deleting my posts, removing responses, profile pics. In the end I had removed myself from 4 years of communications and gotten everyone worried. They tried to help but at I didn't know what was happening to me, I couldn't stop till I removed myself from the server entirely, unfriended everyone and quit. (I was hitting the wall that led me to discover I'm autistic). 

And I'm actually worse in real life when I've tried to have counselling, so I don't have a lot of options to stop the spiralling and improve.

I've had some good advice on how to do this from people here and lovely support, so I will try my best to overcome my reactions and fear as I know it's not good for me and it's only getting worse.

Thank you for your patience everyone, I'm not very good at this.

  • I'm new to the site but I've related so much to many of your posts. You have so much to offer people. I hope you can stabilise and come through this difficult time. Everyone is with you. 

  • That’s really helpful. I often feel this way too. If I write an email to someone it takes me AGES as I so worry about getting it right and not seeming unfriendly, or too friendly, or any number of things I might get wrong. So much self doubt. It’s not easy is it? So tiring and unsettling. I do all I can to relax about these things but they are just a part of me in a way and these thinking habits are hard to change. So I really do relate to the way you also worry in this way. I think that in reality we are just being paranoid - and most people don’t pick up on the things we perceive as being ‘wrong’ about ourselves and the things we do. Your peace of mind is valuable - so doing all we can to to reassure ourselves is well worth the effort. I’m glad that you’re trying to overcome your urge to leave here - that takes real courage. 

  • Butterflyfairy

    I really appreciate your advices and perspectives — means a lot to me, so thank you! What you just wrote really resonates with me and makes this group feel very rich. people hugging

  • Oh no, not the great big hole of doom! I've been down there more times than I care to remember, it's horrible, a place where all the "what if's" in the world live. I'm less likely to go down there online but in real life, I do it all the time, I over think, interrogate everything I've said, to people the way I've looked at them the way they've looked at me and end up a jibbering paralysed wreck.

    I've finally started to worry less about offending people, some people are a sense of offence looking for somewhere to manifest, some people offend me and I have as much right to be offended as everyone else, some people need challenging.

    I'm so glad you want to stay, I so hope you do. Yours are always posts I look forward to reading.

    We're always all here with ropes and tackle to help you out of the pit of doom, just shout and we'll send out a search party.

  • I suggested you think of it as voicing what other people are thinking too

    That does help, I wouldn't censor others, so it is a way of staying my hand.

  • I'm pleased you said it openly, well done. It is what I thought.

    I suggested you think of it as voicing what other people are thinking too. You are just the brave spokesperson. This can make it less personal. It helped me till I became confident. It makes it a group thing; you are not alone. It makes it less scary.

    Also who says other people are correct? If you thought about it carefully, why are you not right? Or maybe parts of both positions are right. It is often not black and white, but we like binary positions.

    You are as worthy as everyone else. You don't need to people please. I try not to, but conflict avoidance in real life is strong.

  • Hi, I like your responses herein the forum. If you delete yourself it would be sad, but maybe you can just take a break. If possible, don't log in for some time If you need break. Then you can come again. I know this feeling,  I struggled with it too in the past. This is one of the reason I have no contact with my colleagues from college and other former co-workers etc.

  • Do you feel able to share what is troubling you about posting on here?

    That's a great question, and it's made me think more about it. 

    As with most issues, there are several elements at play.

    I often want to say things, but not sure if I say them it'll be received the way I meant -having gotten social situations wrong a lot in my life.(Anxiety)

    In real life, if I say something stupid and it's ignored, I'll just wish I could fall into a giant hole in the ground and tell myself to stop talking. But online I can't tell if I've said the wrong thing, and I then start worrying about it. And even if some people agree, I still worry I could've offended others.(People pleasing)

    I find online easier, as it gives me time to really formulate what I want to say. In real life the conversation might have moved on before I really had what I wanted to say ready and checked in my mind. I have time online, but words have more permanency, so by deleting I'm throwing them into the metaphorical hole in the ground I feel I should be in, as I feel unworthy to share space with others. (Lack of self esteem)

    But then there comes another element as I'm filled with compulsion to erase my unworthiness further and I'll seek out other comments to delete too. (Note I do not harm physically, that goes against my rules). But it's not something I realised before how strong the compulsion is? The self censorship grows till I'll be deleting immediately after posting then stop being able to post entirely. 

    As this effects my job too, as I work freelance remotely and often use online places like slack and discord, I need to address it. So this is practice. Trying to stop the metaphorical beast on my shoulder devouring my words.

  • It's good to see you still here Slight smile

    Look after yourself Bouquet

  • I’m sorry that you are feeling so unsettled at the moment about being on here. Do you feel able to share what is troubling you about posting on here? I think you make such valued contributions on here so it would be a shame for you to leave. Having said that if you don’t feel it’s right for you at the moment you can always leave for a while and hopefully return when you feel more comfortable to do that? Do what feels right for you - and be kind to yourself whatever your decision. We will still be here for you if you decide to return. I can relate to having some disquieting feelings about sharing on things like this - sometimes it feels unsettling for me too. However I really value coming on here because I feel there are people on here who really understand how life is for autistic people and the extra challenges we face, and our different perspectives. Whatever choice you make it’s ok - just do what feels right for you and don’t feel bad about it. 

  • What everyone else has said. Please stick with us. I, too, find your contributions helpful.

  • I’m pleased that you are still here  

    Thank you for being open in expressing how things are for you. 

  • Hi  

    I'm not sure what's happened. 

    I'm pleased you are still here.!!

    Sometimes I see threads that I'd like to respond to but I know trying to formulate something would take too much out of me.

    Then I see your response and I think that's very similar to what I would have liked to say. 

    Thank you for being brave.

    I appreciate you.

    Keep being you.

    (⁠◍⁠•⁠ᴗ⁠•⁠◍⁠)⁠Heart

  • Hello, I'm pleased you chose not to hide. Slight smile

    Hopefully you will see that nothing bad happens when you speak. Gradually it should become easier. 

    Your imagined fear is worse than the reality. But fear is not logical once activated.

  • I also quite like listening to your advice and input so try to stick around Blush

  • Ah, that’s a shame, since I like having you on here. You always seem to have good advice and relate well with others here.

    I noticed that you were heavily involved in a couple of threads with a now deleted user that were pretty negative in nature. Could that be part of why you have had this flight response kick off? I personally try not to engage in threads like that now because I feel like I get too invested.

    so I will try my best to overcome my reactions and fear as I know it's not good for me and it's only getting worse.

    That’s awesome that you are trying hard to work through it. I get that social media can be really tough to manage when social life in general is difficult, but it’s hard to get back what you delete.

    My advice is to not delete your account, but maybe consider a break? Then if you feel that you’re ready to return you’ll still have this profile to come back to.

  • Dear Cinnabar_wing,

    You are always welcome as part of the online community. Well done for not going with the flight response, it is very brave. I will pass on your thanks to the rest of the moderation team.

    Always reach out if you need support,

    Olivia Mod

  • I hope you get some rest and calmness and happiness.