The dreaded day approaches

The day where I have to do all the migration to UC from ESA, I know I posted on it before and Bunny gave me some places to go for advice, but I can't find the thread.

Yesterday I looked at all the stuff for it on the government website and it looked really scary. Is there an actual physical form or is it all online? Do you get a chance to save it and go back to it? I'm reluctant to ask the CAB for help as the last couple of times I've had contact with them have been very negative, punishing and extremely NT.

My only consolation is that I can procrastinate as the forms not sue until the end of the month, but I know I've got to screw myself up to do this.

  • I share your dread but it is something we have to go through I am afraid. I looked for info on Disabled People Against Cuts but could not find anything on UC as there was a page on it. I know I asked for and was granted fortnight payments as budgeting is hard for me. Be aware that moving on to UC may affect your Council Tax benefit should you claim that. My council were not very nice about this but I stood up to them and it was ok. Take a few days to complete the form, I know I did. After that go treat yourself to coffee and cake at South Stack. 

  • You're most welcome - that's great to hear!

  • Thank you I will. It dosen't seem to help that it's all done online or over the phone, the O'Toole Centre will be helping make a telephone claim or conversion, it's all just a massive pain in the bum. But at least my claim will be protected and I won't loose any money or have to get all my medical stuff assessed again.

  • Please let us know how you get on, and good luck :).

  • I just wanted to say an especial thank you to Bunny I've been in contact with the O'Toole Centre and am seeing them next week, they were really nice and helpful.

  • Important thing is send off the completed forms before the deadline to ensure there are no gaps in your payments.  Otherwise they might treat you as a new UC claim and all the waiting periods with no pay that go with that.

  • This is wrong - you do need to reapply and you are only guaranteed to get transitional protection if you reapply within the time limit.   The transitional protection means you don't immediately get less money, however if it works out that UC would be less then you get a top up to what you are currently getting and the amount you get is frozen until annual inflation causes the value of what you are receiving to equal UC (in reality an annual reduction in income).

  • Going from ESA to UC should be dead easy because will get transitional protection, which means you won't get less money and you don't need to reapply giving all your health problems all over again.

  • Well I think for a start I'd have to spell Anglesey correctly!

    It dosen't seem to matter what form of words I use, I rarely get the thing I'm looking for, what's really weird is that someone else can search for the same thing with the same form of words as me and get loads of results.

  • what were the search words you used?

    These are most likely the cause of getting the lack of results.

    If you search for "anglesea welfare" then you would get the page you wanted but not if you used "uc to esa migration anglesea".

    Sometimes you need to play with the word combinations and break it to the most simple word choices. Multiple searches are typically needed to get a full range of results, just like if you were looking up an index in an encyclopedia.

  • Thanks Iain, but searching like that dosen't work for me, I get the same results as I do if I put the search bar in the middle of the screen, if it was that simple I'd of done it ages ago when it was forst explained to me.

  • This is a not-for-profit search engine

    To clarify, it is not. 

  • I don't understand how others get results on searches that I don't?

    In your web browser, click on the address bar at the top of the page - it will currently say  https: //community.autism.org.uk/f/mental-health-and-wellbeing/44502/the-dreaded-day-approaches

    Now delete that text and type in duckduckgo.com

    This is a search engine that doesn't have Googles way of shaping the results in a way it chooses so you can see the hidden options.

    It lacks a little of the functionality that the Google search page has but does a much better job of looking after your privacy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo 

    DuckDuckGo does not track its users, User locations are never sent to DuckDuckGo servers and  offers limited third-party tracking protection, third-party cookie protection, CNAME cloaking protection, limited device fingerprint protection from third parties, link tracking removal, Google AMP replacement, and do-not-track requests.

    I hope this makes it easier to search in future.

  • I need to time it with when my benefit lands in my bank account, so as hopefully I don't have to long between one ending and the other starting, I also didn't want to do it earlier as I've just had my car's MOT and I knew it would need some work doing to it.

    I will contact the place Bunny mentioned for help. I looked and all I could find was the CAB, I don't understand how others get results on searches that I don't?

  • I have no advice really but I just wanted to send you words of solidarity and support. The system is designed to intimidate us. Sadly we have no choice really but to engage with it. In my experience putting it off only makes it worse - deal with it as soon as you can to get it over with. Do whatever you can to take care of yourself while you are forced to engage with this incredibly hostile and toxic process. We are more than this - try to not let it diminish you. Solidarity Fist tone2

  • On thank you so much Bunny, I will get hold of them for help.

    I don't feel a sense of achievement about anything least of all filling in a benefits form, I'll have a mild nervous collapse after with episodes of panic unti it's all come through and I know my benefits are safe and I can forget about it again, until next itme.

  • I understand how you feel because I'm the same, I just can't get started.   But once you start it gets better.  And the sooner you start the sooner it's over & done with  and you can relax.

    Also don't delay too long because, like me, it may take several days with many changes and gathering extra evidence.

    I recently completed my PIP and WCA assessments.  It was a nightmare but I managed it.

    Once you complete the forms and send them off, you should get a sense of wellbeing at having achieved something.

  • I know I posted on it before and Bunny gave me some places to go for advice, but I can't find the thread.

    This was my reply in your previous thread

    Isle of Anglesey County Council has a Welfare Rights Team based at the J E O’Toole Centre, Holyhead which provides advice, support, and representation on a range of welfare benefit issues.”

    They also offer outreach surgeries in Llangefni and Amlwch:

    www.anglesey.gov.wales/.../Welfare-Rights-and-other-organisations-that-can-help.aspx