how legal justice deal with autism

just want to know how does legal justice deal with someone with autism. say someone with autism had commited a crime because they were very traumatised and depressed. will they still get send to prison or will there be other treatment for them?

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  • Adrian, I understand the temptation to lash out, you must be very frustrated with all of these things going on that you have no control over, but please, PLEASE DO NOT DO IT.  The last thing you need on top of the troubles you already have is the criminal justice system interfering with your life.  Your current situation will seem like a cakewalk compared to the hoops you'll be forced to jump through after a conviction.  And on top of that, as others have said, people are naturally protective of their children.  They're going to be a lot more cautions of allowing you around their children if they think there's a chance you could become violent.

  • and well i never commit crimes. i never experince being in trouble with the police. well that is true that in the past, i was bullied by other physically but all i did was just push them away in a safe place as a way to protect myself with a right level of force.

  • what age is the criminal responsability of age? and over what age can be charge with assaulting other in the street?


  • what age is the criminal responsability of age? and over what age can be charge with assaulting other in the street?

    Quote:


    "The age of criminal responsibility in England and Wales is 10 years old. This means that children under 10 can't be arrested or charged with a crime. ... Children between 10 and 17 can be arrested and taken to court if they commit a crime."

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/youth-crime


    And:


    Age of criminal responsibility

    The age of criminal responsibility is covered by Section 52 of the Children Act 2001 as amended by Section 129 of the Criminal Justice Act 2006. This came into effect in October 2006, raising the age of criminal responsibility from 7 years of age to 12 years of age. This means that children who have not reached the age of 12 years cannot be charged with an offence. There is an exception, however, for children aged 10 or 11 who can be charged with murder, manslaughter, rape or aggravated sexual assault. In addition, where a child under 14 years of age is charged with an offence, no further proceedings can be taken without the consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions.

    Although the 2001 Act in general prohibits children under 12 years of age from being charged and convicted of a criminal offence, they do not enjoy total immunity from action being taken against them. Section 53 of the Act as amended by Section 130 of the Criminal Justice Act 2006 places an onus on the Gardai to take a child under 12 years of age to his/her parents or guardian, where they have reasonable grounds for believing that the child has committed an offence with which the child cannot be charged due to the child’s age. Where this is not possible the Gardai will arrange for the child to be taken into the custody of the Child and Family Agency (Tusla) for the area in which the child normally resides. It is possible that children under 12 years of age who commit criminal offences will be dealt with by Tusla and not the criminal justice system.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/children_and_young_offenders/children_and_the_criminal_justice_system_in_ireland.html


    And for charges of assault in Norther Ireland:



  • based on this quote "this way of doing things is a natural order of society that everybody must live with and must follow as a essential routine. Just because you may never get into problems with the law regarding interactions with children involving your special interests in Disney characters and fairytale themed games, people cannot get used to letting their guard down because you are lovely and mean no harm whatsoever. There are too many people who accidentally get involved with or purposefully take advantage of vulnerable children and adults, and your safety as much as everyone else’s is really, really important. Keep this very much in mind ~ your safety is as much important as anyone else’s." what does that mean?

  • interacting with children is not against the law especially for someone with autism. to exaggerate this, even a predator dont get into trouble for just interacting with children until they had sexually assaulted the child. an autistic grown person interacting with the children will not get into trouble with the law. 


  • based on this quote "this way of doing things is a natural order of society that everybody must live with and must follow as a essential routine. Just because you may never get into problems with the law regarding interactions with children involving your special interests in Disney characters and fairytale themed games, people cannot get used to letting their guard down because you are lovely and mean no harm whatsoever. There are too many people who accidentally get involved with or purposefully take advantage of vulnerable children and adults, and your safety as much as everyone else’s is really, really important. Keep this very much in mind ~ your safety is as much important as anyone else’s." what does that mean?

    “If you’ve met one person with autism, you’ve met one person with autism.” – Dr. Stephen Shore.


  • i dont understand, well i'm telling you, i am autistic, about this quote " this way of doing things is a natural order of society that everybody must live with and must follow as a essential routine." i do not have to follow the age appropriate and social norm as these are rubbish. why does an autistic person need a mainstream rubbish to slave me to do something that are hurting my world. well the law should only focus on keeping people safe and interacting with children are safe. i am not hurting them, they are fine with that. people who concern about me because of my age, they are just a coward. autistic people should not be slaved to follow age apropriate and social norm. if the mainstream want to slave people with age appriate and social norm, put it on the normal people, not us autistic people. stupid mainstream. don't know why autistic adult cant be interacting with other children just because of their age. so agist.


  • i dont understand, well i'm telling you, i am autistic, about this quote " this way of doing things is a natural order of society that everybody must live with and must follow as a essential routine." i do not have to follow the age appropriate and social norm as these are rubbish. why does an autistic person need a mainstream rubbish to slave me to do something that are hurting my world. well the law should only focus on keeping people safe and interacting with children are safe. i am not hurting them, they are fine with that. people who concern about me because of my age, they are just a coward. autistic people should not be slaved to follow age apropriate and social norm. if the mainstream want to slave people with age appriate and social norm, put it on the normal people, not us autistic people. stupid mainstream. don't know why autistic adult cant be interacting with other children just because of their age. so agist.

    https://community.autism.org.uk/f/introduce-yourself/16783/experience-with-therapist/126507#126507


  • is this forum more for asperger people i wander. because interacting with children as a late teen person (around 16-19) with autism is very common for those who has delay development and classic autism. but people in this forum are disagree with me for doing that just because of the age difference. i even saw a severly autistic girl who is 25 years old and still interact with children age 5 in the playground and no one even care about her doing that. all her mum would just say to other parent that she is autistic and sometimes she loves the company of the children and other parent dont mind and even think that girl is very friendly with their children. 

    so i wander is this forum more for asperger people. because i have delay development maybe you guys dont so disagree with me of interacting with other children?

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  • is this forum more for asperger people i wander. because interacting with children as a late teen person (around 16-19) with autism is very common for those who has delay development and classic autism. but people in this forum are disagree with me for doing that just because of the age difference. i even saw a severly autistic girl who is 25 years old and still interact with children age 5 in the playground and no one even care about her doing that. all her mum would just say to other parent that she is autistic and sometimes she loves the company of the children and other parent dont mind and even think that girl is very friendly with their children. 

    so i wander is this forum more for asperger people. because i have delay development maybe you guys dont so disagree with me of interacting with other children?

Children
  • well guys, based on the criminal justice for autism, this is what i've found out. you are legally responsable at the age of 12 which means you can be prosecuted if you commit any crimes except you get send to a juvenile when you are under 18. And when you are 16, you will be prosecuted for commit sex crimes against a minor.

    but when is come to special need, it all change well it depends on their capacity, functioning level and background. usually when a severe autistic people (especially those with intellectual disability) or someone who has severe depression, the criminal justice are dealt with differently e.g, they would set a different boundry and say if they did something serious like injuring someone seriously, then they would be send to a mental hospital as in this situation, they might be consider as very depressed so they might need a special care.

    something like hiting or shoving other for severe autistic people, if is happen once or twice, they usually slide away with it which means no police will get involved. 

    but for high functioning people, is very depends on the situation.

    well i am working on a project about how police deal with autism violent behaviour with criminal justice. but in my life, although i'm not that kind of person, i know plenty of severe autistic adult (especially those sevre with intellectual disability), they often hit other when they get upset but never got arrested for just one slap against anyone of any age.

  • You cant go around touching 5 year olds you need to look for help to avoid getting in trouble with this