The coming shortages...

I'm both a "conspiracy theorist" and a "prepper" yet also a largely normal everyday person.

I don't hide in my basement full of stuff sharpening my knives like some do, but I do take as practical a "be prepared" attitude as I can just like they taught me when I was young...

This winter, even if they manage to keep the power and natural gas supplies running, they are definitely going to fist you all on the price of the commodities.

For those of you who have access to a decent plumber and a place to fit such a thing you ought to look at a solid fuel stove with a back boiler that will work with your central heating NOW. 

I want an aga in the garage so we can heat water and the garage and cook on the thing, but MY oh says now she'd rather use the space for something else that owns that won't save us about a grand a year form now on.

Because you KNOW the price is never going to go down again because of "climate change" as well as the massive trousering of our money that is now happening again...

At least we declined the "smart" meter, so I can reduce our electricity consumption with solar and a grid tie invertor. I'll even get the wind turbine to work again.

A secondary heating boiler for the central heating for those who can, would be a great thing. I made my own fuel out of cardboard, and it burns really nice.

Post Brexit we really want to start innovating again. British style. If the gas and electric are going to become unaffordable then we need to make our own on an individual basis.

I can RELY on a solid fuel gravity fed central hearting system. Yer methane fed, combi boiler with it's microprocessor and requirement for electricity as well as fuel, not so much.

IF the electric starts going off regularly on a nationwide basis there is a way to power your entire homes minimum power requirement (fridge TV LED lights laptop charger mobile phone charger) off a suitcase generator plugged into to a socket on the downstairs ringmain, but it's dangerous (and not in an amusing way) if not done strictly right.

But make sure you get a "four stroke" suitcase generator, if things get that grim..  

  • i dont use heating so much. i work outside and warehouse i work in is colder than my unheated home, so my home feels heated when i get back in winter even when it isnt heated.

    if i do start to feel cold, a quick walk gets me acclimatised to it and feeling warm when i get back in.

    but yeah, putting the electric heating on is a huge kick in the bank lol
    its like my entire days electric being used every hour. electric heaters really do use alot. 
    i have no alternative, i live in a flat with no gas connection. probably not a very fire safe flat 

  • If I were you, I'd live by someone else's rules, and stay cold, or over extended on your fuel bills, because that's the right thing to do.

  • I'm really working the problem quite hard this year, and the basic "free fuels" seem to be waste oil, and anything you can find lying about, I.E. solid fuel. 

    The last 3 cities / towns I lived in did not allow solid fuel burning because of air quality issues (Milton Keynes, Central London and a town on the south coast) so having any form of solid fuel option there is a no-go.

    Most dwellings in London and the south coast tend to be apartments so there is no roof access to install solar panels or even ground/air source heat pumps.

    Any idea what to use in these circumstances?

  • Thank you that is helpful to know.

  • Nope no sound comes from the ones my dad got none at all. We're sensitive to sound but don't hear anything from the panels. 

    You can probably ask the people who will install it for you but I think they are silent or very very quiet. 

  • Does the thing that collects the electricity hum at all? I have quite high sensitivity to background noises and wonder if you would hear any sound from it at night.

  • There's solar panels on the house roof. My dad said it saves a lot so that's good. Everything is pricy the dog treats are more expensive for us than they were.

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    Can't tag the original Number in this so thought I'd tag some randomer in instead whose name made me laugh.

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  • I really don’t think you can install an Aga in a garage!

    I have an electric one, which hasn’t been switched on this year, as obviously, the prices have shot up. I have really missed it, and it’s warmth!

  • I have a friend in holland who has 6x solar panels at a total rated max power of 2.5 KW.

    Currently he gets 1 KW/h PER DAY out of them. Over the year he gest 2Mw/h which equates to 5Kw/h per day on average.

    The "average " daily draw seems to be 10Kw/h per day for us... So to run our house in winter we'd need around 60 panels minimum, whereas I think the most I've counted on a roof is about 16... 

    My two arrays of two 130watt panels not sited perfectly each are pretty rubbish to be fair.

    I'm really working the problem quite hard this year, and the basic "free fuels" seem to be waste oil, and anything you can find lying about, I.E. solid fuel. 

    Electricity costs 35P a K/W hr and gas only 10 p per K/w hour. So it's fairly obvious that a natural gas powered generator powering your house would save you quite a lot of money, especially if you lapse the electricity supply completely so you are not paying a "standing charge". 

  • All the prices have gone crazy lately. Gas and electricity will soon become unaffordable for most people. People who still have fireplaces in their houses are lucky. Recently I thought about investing in a solar panel. It's clean and green energy, safer than other sources. Besides, I will save a lot of money. However, my friend suggested not to rush, and first reach out for advice at guys from https://yenex.com. There are many factors to take into account before setting it up. So the help of a specialized installer is a must-have.

  • I read an article the other day where the power company set limits on the operation of peoples thermostats during a heat wave!

    It was in the fine print apparently, written in a way that was less than obvious even if you read it.. I've reached the point where I've decided that on balance in todays business environment NO-ONE is trustable any longer, and disintermediation and decentralisation and DIY are the pillars of a halfway sucessful life from now on.

    This includes a reduction of my total cashflow to as close to zero as I can manage, (ZERO use of credit was a given) 

  • Plus, wind turbines are the biggest eyesore known to man. 

    It's all to punish us, for not electing the Socialists. 

  • I already have Solar Power. Slight smile

    I'm getting a new boiler, but I don't want the smart meter. Power outages, due to it, already exist in Denver and LA.

    It's the USSA that's responsible. They dragged us down to their level, and beat us with experience.

  • I have started trying to grow my own food, a little bit of self sufficiency at least. Difficult to do much more than that in a council house

  • Autism, gives us a cheery outlook doesn't it? ;c)

  • Just got myself a portable gas stove and some solar/windup lamps.....

  • i got a hot tent and stove. for when i end up living under a motorway underpass.

  • If you are anywhere near the midlands that could be a thing. 

    Personally, I've found wind to be quite useless the vast majority of the time, only solar is halfway reliable, and anecdotally, that seems to be true across the board.