Vegan food is great!

These are vegan sausages i used to make a vegan sausage casserole.

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  • It is obvious from humans not having the large abdomen and long gut of great apes, who are essentially fructivore/herbivores, that humans are adapted to omnivory.  Apes are 'hind gut fermenters' they have large colons where commensal microbes help to break down cellulose and other plant polysaccharides. The colon is 17-23% of total gut volume in humans, while it is 52-54% in orangutans and chimpanzees. The take home message from comparative anatomy is that omnivory, including some fish and meat, is a more suitable diet for humans, than strict herbivory. 

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  • It is completely different. Ethical and religious reasons are not the same and, despite all religions teaching compassion, very few religious people truly show it. So, their religious practice is rarely ethical.

  • It has some similarities. Foods that are acceptable and those that are not, parallels Judaism, Islam and Hinduism. It also has a fanatical wing that is not above breaking the law.

  • Veganism is not a religion.

  • I'm a biologist and terms have definite meanings in science. 

  • I meant of value. I thought that would be clear. Maybe not.

  • Not just about preservatives, it is completely devoid of nutrients, so contains no nutritional value whatsoever.

    That is categorically not true. Any type of food that humans can digest has nutritional value. Any food containing carbohydrates that can be metabolised, ultimately to glucose, provides energy in the form of adenosine triphosphate (ATP), fats and oils are broken down into lipids, which can also provide energy or the building blocks of lipid cell membranes etc., proteins are broken down into amino acids which are usually used to create human proteins, but can also be used to provide energy.

    A 'Big Mac' contains carbohydrates, fats and proteins, therefore it has nutrients. You have confused 'nutrients' and 'nutrition' with an 'ideal diet'. An ideal diet has a great deal of variety, and contains all the necessary vitamins, minerals and trace elements for long term health. The ideal diet would consist of a variety of vegetables, fruits, cereals and modest amounts of meat and/or fish/seafood.

  • Oh I'm really sorry, I don't know where you are getting your (research) information, but it is very misinformed. Veganism is NOT a religion and never has been. It is a social justice movement, and vegans believe every living being has a right to their own autonomy. Especially as what is taken from animals (their autonomy, and their lives) is unnecessary with healthy and more sustainable alternatives, from food to cars to building materials etc.
    The only connection between veganism and religion is the law they share when it comes to discrimination.

  • Well, I'm not a religious person, because so far I was allowed to make a choice and I do my research on anything before I make a decision. That also applies to recent religions, like veganism. So, Amen to that.

  • That's interesting, where do you get the 1 billion years time. Who has been able to scientifically state that? I said the Earth is dying at our hands, not that it will die. We will be gone as a species, hence being in the sixth mass extinction process, and earth, having already survived 4.6 billion years, will go on to regenerate and thrive again no doubt.

    Fat people % is highest among unemployed

    That is not true at all. Obesity doesn't come down to greediness but ignorance about nutrition And overweight people while less likely to be employed over someone who isn't overweight, and we won't get into discrimination in the work place, they do not make up the main factor for obesity. In fact, quite the opposite in many cases.

    The issue with processed food is that it is not healthy if that is all that is consumed, as it contains preservatives.

    Not just about preservatives, it is completely devoid of nutrients, so contains no nutritional value whatsoever.

    The reasons why people are eating more meat is because they have become more efficient at producing meat, without the need to hunt wild animals.

    No, the reason we eat more meat is that since the invention of the freezer, we have been able to store it. We are killing wild animals at an enormous rate JUST for meat production. Haven't you seen what's going on in the Amazon in Brazil and Peru? Wild animals are hunted and killed to preserve livestock all over the world. Humans and Livestock account for 96% of mammal biomass on the Earth now, that has a huge impact. If people still had to hunt animals themselves with just hand made tools, most people would be vegan. We have turned the killing of living beings into a production line, and we don't even bother thinking of our impact on their lives or the devastation we cause others in poorer countries.

    Countries that has gone way past anything Homo Sapiens did, like North Korea are consuming least amounts of meat per day - in fact they sometimes have to eat grass.

    I don't know what is going on in NK. There is a lot of poverty, and obviously a lot of dictatorship. I don't imagine they have the resources we do here, and yet still here people are dying in poverty.

    I would stay away from tabloids like the Daily Mail. It's a disgusting paper that loves to distort the truth and segregate people. I don't read newspapers, but the only one I'll give time of day to is the Guardian.

    Take care.

  • Dying planet? That is not something you should worry about, because you will not live 1 billion of years to experience death of Earth.

    Fat people % is highest among unemployed - they are very greedy for sure.

    The issue with processed food is that it is not healthy if that is all that is consumed, as it contains preservatives.

    The reasons why people are eating more meat is because they have become more efficient at producing meat, without the need to hunt wild animals. Top 5 meat producers(per capita) are Denmark, New Zealand, Ireland, Monsterrat and Uruguay - yeah, up till now I was not certain that imminent death of Earth is coming from these countries.

    Countries that has gone way past anything Homo Sapiens did, like North Korea are consuming least amounts of meat per day - in fact they sometimes have to eat grass.

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    I do like variety in food and that applies to knowledge as well.

    Well, as much I would like to give my solutions to all the world problems, let's not get carried away... I'm pretty sure, that being ASD comes with plenty of problems to solve. Like these:

    www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Autistic-man-sues-Sainsburys-banning-assistance-cat-supermarkets.html

    I was thinking about maybe robot, that could be good assistant, but cats are even better.

  • Ha and look where it has got us, now mostly fat, sedentary and on a dying planet because of our insatiable greed. Homo sapiens ate meat yes, but predominantly they ate plants, but this I'm sure depended on season too. However now, people eat animal products, mostly processed, at every meal. It has gone way way past anything homo sapiens did.

  • I would add, that the reason why Humans have more developed brains than other primates is because they started to eat meat and it was important source of food for children of ancestors of humans - starting from 3 million years ago. That and also knowledge of fire and cooked meat and tools for hunt were known to ancestors of humans way before they became humans.

    Brains of Homo Sapiens have developed, because of long history of eating meat.