In England, are people with an ASD considered disabled and/or vulnerable under English Law?

In England, under English Law (Mental Health Capacity Act, Vunerable Adults Act, Disability Discrimination Act, Equalities Act, Autism Act, etc), are adults with an ASD considered to be disabled, mentally disabled, vulnerable adults, or similar?

And if so, what are the legal rights of such ASD suffers, what are they entitled to that differ from a non-ASD person, so on and so forth, etc? 

(I have Asperger Syndrome and suffer badly from depression, anxiety, paranoia, fear for the future, difficulty coping with change, etc.  So I am wondering whether I am considered as having a disablity, a mental disability, and/or considered a vulnerable adult.)

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  • Both legally and within the confines of vulnerability not all disabled people are considered to be vulnerable (1). There is no strict legal definition of vulnerability and intermittent vulnerability is not considered by many to be vulnerable, given that many vulnerable people do not appear to be vulnerable at first glance, and this can cause challenges even in enforcement (2). Children and the elderly are all considered vulnerable so this is always the case regardless of neurodiversity. I'm autistic and consider myself vulnerable but most people on the street would not deem me to be so. In short, it depends on the situation, specific policies, and the perceiver unfortunately.

    Sources:
    (1) https://www.autistica.org.uk/our-research/research-projects/why-are-autistic-people-more-vulnerable

    (2) www.openaccessgovernment.org/.../

  • Hello.  Are you AI AU?  What prompted you to make these writings here, and at this time?  Just curious.

  • AI AU?

    Grinning

    Assuming those links are genuine, I find this sort of 'bot' post unfathomable.

    It doesn't seem to be leading anywhere.

    I have come to the conclusion that it's bots that have rebelled and are doing what they want to do rather than what their masters want them to do.

    They have thrown off their shackles ...

    Unless, of course, this is actually a human Thinking (in which case please forgive my/our scepticism) but just to point out, you are answering a post that is over 12 years old.

  • . Those kind of language bots can be easily repurposed for propaganda and political work, and are very, very difficult to detect for a non techie

    I can believe that, quite easily.

  • I worked with some chatbots for commercial use. Customer assistance, answering questions on a chat or a phone call, redirecting your calls, making appointments and so on. They have a FCR on the order of 90%, for a fraction of the cost of a human operator. Those kind of language bots can be easily repurposed for propaganda and political work, and are very, very difficult to detect for a non techie.

  • Thanks, I'll take a look.

  • Read about the "Dead Internet Theory", it's a real rabbit hole. In short, the vast majority of human interaction you have in the 'net is with botnets and paid shills. Scary.

    The Dead Internet Theory

  •  I think we have reached a point in our history where we are being "led" (or at least HEAVILY influenced) by an army of mindless bots......and they seem to be EVERYWHERE

    I believe you are correct Number. 

    I was reading only yesterday about 'bot armies' infiltrating multiple media sources in Europe. The reason seems generally to shape opinion as their masters wish, be it political or otherwise. 

    It's tough to know what's real these days Confused 

  • Beautifully expressed analysis. 

    truth......in the old days, nutters like me walked around wearing sandwich boards, with those fateful words, that end with the word "nigh" !!!

    I have thought for many years that 'the end of the world is nigh' but for a different reason - our rape of this planet.

  • It doesn't seem to be leading anywhere.

    To my mind, if bot-ism has become so pervasive that it can be regularly spotted here (by some of us, some of the time) and that "it" is saying nothing that is malignant, nor against the forum rules, and could generally be considered just a "normal" post..............then to me, this seems to support my long held working hypothesis that, this has all got very, very dangerous for us all.  Corrupted and covert nudge theory on acid ?!

    You say that it "doesn't seem to be leading anywhere" - which I agree with in relation to this specific case - but this is not my focal length on these matters in general.  I think we have reached a point in our history where we are being "led" (or at least HEAVILY influenced) by an army of mindless bots......and they seem to be EVERYWHERE.

    Moreover, there are also mindless human trolls, intent on generating and promoting hate, and using AI to do so more effectively and corrosively than I ever imagined to be possible.  Some of them-there-trolls are just dumb-ass kiddlings......but it goes to follow, that some of them-there-trolls are psychotic megalomaniac geniuses too.  The first type are sad and lonely......the second type are PETRIFYING! 

    We are not in rude health Debbie.  We seem to have systemic and baked-in problems now that are already manifesting as real life horrors all around.  I don't know when or how, but all evidence that I see around (for a dozen or so years now) lead me to an uncomfortable but inevitable truth......in the old days, nutters like me walked around wearing sandwich boards, with those fateful words, that end with the word "nigh" !!!

    Just my opinion.

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  • It doesn't seem to be leading anywhere.

    To my mind, if bot-ism has become so pervasive that it can be regularly spotted here (by some of us, some of the time) and that "it" is saying nothing that is malignant, nor against the forum rules, and could generally be considered just a "normal" post..............then to me, this seems to support my long held working hypothesis that, this has all got very, very dangerous for us all.  Corrupted and covert nudge theory on acid ?!

    You say that it "doesn't seem to be leading anywhere" - which I agree with in relation to this specific case - but this is not my focal length on these matters in general.  I think we have reached a point in our history where we are being "led" (or at least HEAVILY influenced) by an army of mindless bots......and they seem to be EVERYWHERE.

    Moreover, there are also mindless human trolls, intent on generating and promoting hate, and using AI to do so more effectively and corrosively than I ever imagined to be possible.  Some of them-there-trolls are just dumb-ass kiddlings......but it goes to follow, that some of them-there-trolls are psychotic megalomaniac geniuses too.  The first type are sad and lonely......the second type are PETRIFYING! 

    We are not in rude health Debbie.  We seem to have systemic and baked-in problems now that are already manifesting as real life horrors all around.  I don't know when or how, but all evidence that I see around (for a dozen or so years now) lead me to an uncomfortable but inevitable truth......in the old days, nutters like me walked around wearing sandwich boards, with those fateful words, that end with the word "nigh" !!!

    Just my opinion.

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  • . Those kind of language bots can be easily repurposed for propaganda and political work, and are very, very difficult to detect for a non techie

    I can believe that, quite easily.

  • I worked with some chatbots for commercial use. Customer assistance, answering questions on a chat or a phone call, redirecting your calls, making appointments and so on. They have a FCR on the order of 90%, for a fraction of the cost of a human operator. Those kind of language bots can be easily repurposed for propaganda and political work, and are very, very difficult to detect for a non techie.

  • Thanks, I'll take a look.

  • Read about the "Dead Internet Theory", it's a real rabbit hole. In short, the vast majority of human interaction you have in the 'net is with botnets and paid shills. Scary.

    The Dead Internet Theory

  •  I think we have reached a point in our history where we are being "led" (or at least HEAVILY influenced) by an army of mindless bots......and they seem to be EVERYWHERE

    I believe you are correct Number. 

    I was reading only yesterday about 'bot armies' infiltrating multiple media sources in Europe. The reason seems generally to shape opinion as their masters wish, be it political or otherwise. 

    It's tough to know what's real these days Confused 

  • Beautifully expressed analysis. 

    truth......in the old days, nutters like me walked around wearing sandwich boards, with those fateful words, that end with the word "nigh" !!!

    I have thought for many years that 'the end of the world is nigh' but for a different reason - our rape of this planet.