How do you protect yourself?

Pietro, I'm uncomfortable with this extreme Christian stuff, so I will be leaving this conversation.

I mean the double standard that if men behave that way they are castigated. Its a loophole open to exploitation (by satan ;).

Whats Satan's horn? 

Sometimes jostling on place like trains is unavoidable.

I’ve had women rubbing themselves up against me on trains I am not really a fan of this. In the past I have received quite a lot of female misogyny, which I see as women holding Satans horn. When women think all men are the same that is the end of the world.

I’ve always seen myself as a pacifist (any kind of unwanted contact is violence, I would definitely refuse to go to war. I’m quite street wise, I wouldn’t class myself as working class but if someone is confrontational I can give it back. 

I don't mind being touched, it depends on who, when and why, if someone jostles me me first thought is, "Are my bag and purse safe?" Obviously there are some people who stand to close on purpose as a means of intimidation, I've taken to doing what my Mum does and swingling round sharply with a slightly extended elbow and then appologising for hurting them.

I avoid being in crowded places, so I don't get to much aggravation, although I do get quite a few comments, like short old men calling me Sir, even though it's obvious I'm female. I was talking to a lady in the local shop who's a bit taller than me and she gets it too, there's quite a bit of hostility towards tall women.

I suppose one advantage of my working class background is that I learnt to answer back early and very well, I'm not easily physically intimidated either.

Exactly This is why you have to protect yourself.  Its a form of abuse. Anyone who reads this probably thinks that I am nuts, because they trust them. lol.

I am just going to post this even if it sounds like bonkers paranoid balony I don't fully understand the science  yet but I know that its real.

That thing people do why they swing their arms at you or rub up close to you. I really dislike being overly close to people I don't know, a love. Your essence

Maybe this is the main difference between ebergy vampires and me. A because I don't want to be friends, B because I don't like being close to people without good reason.

I'm noticing a lot more female energy vampires.

In the 1980s there a lot of films warning what was going on, The Dark Crystal, Lifeforce, later Warcraft, more recently I think also social media and phones have the ability to tap you or at least your personal preferences and inspirations. Unless you wear dark sunglasses.

Or its just mind games being played. I may delete this later, I am hoping for some clarity from anyone.

Really the question might be do you feel you need protection? If you feel threatened. The ideal scenario would not to be in any position where you feel like you need to cover your ears or eyes.

This is fascinating I will read it in detail later.

Do you mean that you feel surrounded by energy vampires? If so, the concentrate on making yourself taste bad, if I'm around an energy vampire I concentrate on emitting an "energy smell" like the bottom of a bin on a hot day, they soon go away then.

its called Shintaido they are doing.

Yes I like golden numbers, the strange thing about these perfect patterns though is that they also exist in almost everythink - even the mundane.

It is the one thing that seems to stand out, almost as an identifier. When I first started reading about things after diagnosis 'Special' makes it sound a bit weird.  But then I remembered things which consumed me for long periods, and still do, so really it is a passionate interest. 

I tend to look at things head on, the whole machine not just the cogs. I also do tend to see the best in people once I know them fairly well, although generally I would say if I am thinking in nt/nd terms as I am lately I don't feel nts are meeting anything like in the middle. Should I teach them my ways if all they are going to do is strip them and then carry on in the same direction? This is the sharing (if I know they are uncaring) dillema also in giving as an asd person you have to trust everyone in the group. Having a shared discipline could be helpful in this scenario, as long as there are no rogue players. I would join a group of similarly minded people but I despise banter or knowing that one person could try to derail things. I think total group harmony is a fantastic thing like a flock of starlings.

pietro_21 maybe quick fixes are often a result of a "top down" approach.  The best martial arts I have encountered explore the intersection between top down and bottom up approaches to things.  Being a very "bottom-up" thinker myself these days I have found it helpful to explore meeting in the middle!  How we perceive others behaviour and interact with it can change if we all meet in the middle more.  :-)

I reckon the special interest bit about self defence and autism comes from experiences of being different.

Then there's that long journey of self discovery as to who one actually is that one is trying to defend - especially if there is an absolute upheaval in terms of seeing oneself post diagnosis from a very different perspective... 

Instead maybe dream of sunflowers and other golden means :-)

Yep, pietro_21  :-)

hehe standing on one leg in search of enlightenment (like my leg hurts why don't I use the other one...)  or why am I holding this stick?

Lots of tribes out there - think there was a book about autism that mentioned it 

as regards looking at the number of sides - why stop at 2? 

Recently have found the Fibonacci sequence rather fab , 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13 etc

All rather lovely :-)

I hate the idea that other people are tapping into my energy or identity. Its best to keep them on their toes. 

I am getting the feeling we landed somewhere near to a special interest. Where I live in London there are more people taking up Shinto type martial arts. Standing on one leg with a stick   I can see thats why people do this to join a group its a sort of tribal awareness.

When human beings are hard wired to think a certain way they lose awareness of so much.This is part of our struggle because we can see both sides, the normal and the diverse.

This compared with "Eastern" martial arts where:

So - in short you're right - we don't know what was deeply involved in their martial arts pre-roman - however we do know they started age 6 so the training regimen was presumably quite extensive

and

Because the Celts did not leave their own written records, what we know about pre-Roman Celtic martial arts 

comes from archaeological finds, Classical accounts (Greeks and Romans), and later oral traditions recorded in medieval sagas. 

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Rather than a single "style," their martial practice was a collection of techniques focused on individual prowess, ritual combat, and psychological warfare. 

1. The Philosophy of Personal Glory

Celtic combat was driven by a warrior code that prioritised individual reputation over regimented group strategy. 

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• Champion Warfare: Battles often began with ritual single combat between chosen champions at river fords or between armies.
• Psychological Intimidation: Warriors used "dreadful din"—a cacophony of war-cries and the carnyx (a tall animal-headed trumpet)—to unsettle enemies before the charge.
• Apotropaic Protection: Some fought naked or painted in blue woad, a ritual act of audacity designed to show contempt for death and invoke spiritual protection. 
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2. Weapons and Technical Evidence

Archaeology shows a high degree of technical evolution in their gear, which dictated their fighting styles:

• The Longsword: Primarily a slashing weapon, often nearly a metre long. Some tribes, like the Parisii, carried these on their backs to be drawn over the shoulder.
• Spear and Javelin: Most warriors carried multiple spears (gae and gá-ín) for both throwing and thrusting. Javelins could be over 2 metres long with barbed heads designed to tear flesh upon removal.
• The Chariot: Used as a mobile platform. Warriors would drive into the fray to intimidate and throw weapons before leaping off to fight on foot while the driver stayed nearby for a quick exit.
• Shields: Large, oval or rectangular wooden shields were the primary defence. Despite their reputation for "disorder," they were known to form shield walls (which Romans called a testudo) when necessary. 
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3. Training and Social Structure

• Elite Schools: Later Gaelic traditions mention the 
  Taigh Suntais
   (gymnasium), where young men trained in wrestling, archery, and "single-stick" from age six.
• Martial Equality: Classical authors like Tacitus and Ammianus Marcellinus noted that Celtic women were formidable fighters, often participating in battles alongside men.
• Unarmed Combat: References exist to early forms of wrestling (coraíocht) and boxing (dornálaíocht), which focused on trips, throws, and striking to prove strength during festivals and "Fair Day" contests. 
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Summary of Known Techniques

Category	Core Techniques	Primary Focus
Armed	Longsword slashing, spear thrusting, javelin throwing, shield bashing	Reach and mobility
Unarmed	Grappling, tripping, "scuffling"	Throwing/pinning the opponent
Tactical	Guerrilla harassment, headlong "furious" charges, chariot-leaping

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Yes, Western Martial Arts (WMA) and Historical European Martial Arts (HEMA) were deeply intertwined with several philosophical, social, and scientific frameworks. Unlike the often mystical or religious framing of Eastern arts, Western systems were frequently grounded in Renaissance humanism, Aristotelian logic, and chivalric codes of honour. 

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• Virtues: Martial practice was seen as a way to cultivate virtues like bravery, loyalty, justice, and mercy.
• Social Responsibility: Knights were expected to use their skills to protect the weak, the Church, and their lords.
• Dueling Etiquette: In the Renaissance, this evolved into a "Code of Honour" that governed private duels, emphasizing individual reputation and fairness over brute survival. 
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During the Renaissance, masters began to treat fighting as a science (Scientia) rather than just a "vulgar" craft. 

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• Geometry and Physics: Systems like the Spanish La Verdadera Destreza ("The True Art") used Euclidean geometry and Aristotelian physics to explain combat as a series of mathematical circles and lines.
• Humanism: Many manuals reflect the Renaissance humanist ideal of the "Universal Man," where martial skill was one part of a well-rounded education alongside music, logic, and rhetoric. 
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Early Western philosophy, particularly Stoicism and Neoplatonism, heavily influenced how practitioners viewed self-control and the mind-body connection. 

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• Self-Mastery: Martial training was a tool for Eudaimonia (human flourishing) through the development of self-discipline, patience, and calmness under pressure.
• The "Sober Mind": Ancient Hellenistic traditions emphasized a balanced individual where a "sober mind" controlled the "violent body". 
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• Direct Confrontation: Techniques were often designed for efficiency in specific contexts like judicial duels or war.
• Secular Integration: Martial skills were typically treated as a practical skill or hobby separate from religion, whereas Eastern arts often blurred these lines. 
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