On Site Censorship

Does anyone else get caught out by writing names or common expressions and then find that they've been automaitically censored? I've had this happen a couple of times and I find it really annoying that I can't use a name or phrase without it being censored, it seems like there's no context to the censorship, just a blanket ban, are we not grown ups who can sort this stuff out for ourselves? I think this site is to nannying at times and yet seems to allow other things to slip through unnoticed.

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  • Yep, that's how it goes.

    You wait and see what happens when you actually upset the more malignant posters, just loads of them black signs!

    I finally tried it out myself last momth and anyone can just flag an account for spam/abuse without having to give any reason, whcih gives the poor mods a little conundrum to solve every time I upset someone, and if I upset a group, suddenly they really get to do some unravelling!

    You the "defendent" do have to give suplememntal info, so each comaplint makes a lot of minor work for two people and the complaint enjoys complete anonymity. I can understand the police acting like that as complaints in their world can easily lead to "snitches get stitches" but here we are already anonymised I.D.'s and I think teh recipient f a comlaint and particualrly a series of failed complainst ought to to have the rightt to know and respond to their accusers here in the open. 

    Maybe in a separte section that the gentler, less combative people can easily avoid... 

  • "Your appeal ... has been accepted."   No explanation. No apology. Thank you.

  • Gladly. Did you search the NAS service providers' directory? Yes, I am listed there, but not allowed to use my name in the forum.

  • I agree that anonymity should be an option, and I completely respect the right to post anonymously if one wishes. What I find patronising is that the NAS assumes that I am incapable of doing a risk assessment and making my own decision. As a regulated professional my details are out there already - my company is registered at Companies House, my personal details are on the professional register at Social Work England, the charity I am associated with is listed with the Charities Commission, I have a presence on some social media, although I have tightly locked-down profiles. With my full name, you can check my credentials. If I call myself " Expert 123" I could also claim to be a professor of psychiatry, a King's Counsel and a Papal Knight - I am none of those - BUT if I did so claim, there is no way anybody could prove otherwise.

    I choose what information to post. Caveat scriptor - let the writer beware. I got my first death threat a few months into my first job as a social worker. My client (who I suspected was neurodivergent but undiagnosed)  had solved an interpersonal problem with a peer using two billiard balls in a sock, and when arrested he had a knife on him. He blamed me for the fact that he was having a holiday at Her Majesty's expense. It sort of goes with the territory. So yes, I take precautions, both online and in my working life.

    My counter-argument is that on this forum we have individuals who claim to be "experts"  who are nothing of the sort. We have barrack-room lawyers who clearly have no idea what they are talking about.  Someone expressed an opinion (carefully not framed as advice in line with the rules) about the Mental Capacity Act. I posted a refutation.  The difference was that I am a registered social worker, and a Best Interests Assessor, and my opinion is based on seven years of postgraduate training and twenty-five years of experience. I quoted the legislation, and could, if challenged, back it up with caselaw. The refutation was "botted" for some reason, but was later reinstated, unedited. The misinformation was allowed to stay.

  • Ian.

    By way of a demonstration, would you accept a telephone call from me on the number I've just found whilst you are still composing your reply?

  • Whilst I was replying, your post vanished. Here's my reply anyway to your criticsism of the anonymity aspect, I hope you find it a satisfactory explanation of that policy.

    Ian. Prohibiting people from using their real names or supplying other personally identifying information, perhaps is less "patronising" than it is a realistic safety measure.  

    The internet allows all of us to become "public figures" or "broadcasters".

    You'll note that pretty much all public figures have to take basic security measures, to protect their privacy against fans (so they can have some time to themselves) and also against the insane individuals who might for unfathomable reasons develop a harmful fixation against them.   

    Most of us members of the public are naive to the dangers inherent in public speaking, and untrained in our presentation skills, and more likely statistically to fall found of some random nutter who will also know we are a much "softer" target for their rage. 

    I personally was exposed to someone who aggregated all the information I'd provided on a website over some years (name, occupation, approximate location) and published a comprehensive "doxxing" of what he thought was my C.V.including photo. At this point, my having a VERY common name and NO published C.V. or any other real "social media" prescence made him look a fool, as he'd "doxxed" some other poor guy... 

    It was a teachable moment for me and confirmation, that what some people might call paranoia (or in this case patronising) is in fact just sensible precautions. 

    Also, allowing people to hide behnd anonymity tends to allow them to "drop the mask" and speak their truth without fear of consequence. As a result we do get a better picture of how people really feel and think. Unlike face to face verbal conflict there is virtually no chance of it escalating into dangerous physical confromtation, which preserves peoples physical safety.

  • My response has also been "botted". I don't know why I donate to this organisation.

  • I wonder how many of the moderators and managers are themselves neurodivergent? This whole chat board is patronising - e.g. not allowing posters to use their real names or personal information, random censorship, not just of "dubious" words.  I have had a few posts "botted" which have been then been accepted, unedited, on appeal, and I can't see what their rejection criteria are. The moderators' motto seems to be " never explain, never apologise " 

    In one post that was "botted" I advised against the misuse of non-prescription street drugs to treat mental health conditions - the original post tacitly supporting self-medication with controlled (illegal) substances was allowed to stand.  I am sure the thought police - sorry, moderators and their cyber-bots - mean well, but as you say, it is infantilising.