Reading a book on Neurotypical Social Norms and Woah...

I'm reading the 10th edition of Asperkids and it lists a bunch of Neurotypical social norms and "rules" and woah. I'm 23 and can't believe I didn't realize these things. I wish I'd had this book in middle school - it would have save me a lot of trouble. Do people actually just pick up on this stuff automatically? Why did no one tell me? 

Suddenly my job search from last year is making a lot of sense as to why the interviews didn't go well. Apparently someone having a book on their office shelf doesn't mean they've read it or plan to read it and asking them about it makes them uncomfortable and embarrassed - no wonder I didn't get that job. But I figured if you have a copy of The Art of War proudly displayed you've read it or are planning to read it - but I guess it was just decor? But it wasn't even a particularly nice looking edition, just a generic hardback, the type you can get on Amazon. Why display a book you haven't read or don't plan to read when it isn't even pretty? It reminds me of that part in the library in Gatsby but I figured people stopped doing the whole fake library thing when books became more affordable.  

And then there was that guy I corrected when he said there were six continents and the business he worked for did business across all six ... he forgot Antarctica. 

And suddenly every annoyed boss and potential boss and professor and teacher starts to make sense. Apparently people in places of authority don't like to be corrected or questioned. But aren't we supposed to ask questions and shouldn't corrections be made if something is wrong? 

God, how do you figured out when to question and correct and when to just shut up?

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  • I figured out when I heard few times from my teachers and not only, that I should keep my philosophies for myself. I promised myself to shut up and since then I’m super cautious and also anxious about saying anything. I also wondered if all those people with high positions really read these books or just have them to show how smart and educated they are. I came to conclusion that it’s the second. Of course it does not mean they are smart they just show off. Despite being cautious I still sometimes say something hmm. Yeah, I think I should read this book.

  • I used to worry about stuff like this and yeah, its really complicated, humans are sort of my nerd subject, so I often understand such behaviours whilst being totally emotionally divorced from them. I've never been in the sort of job where the sorts of things you describe have ever been an issue and I worked for myself for quite a long time.

    Now I can't seem to bring myself to care anymore what others think about me to much, so yes I will be the person who asks awkward questions, I always have been, but I'm more confident in arguing my case. I was amazed during covid when there were so many interviews with talkking heads from their own homes and that many of them had people come in and curate a bookshelf for them to sit in front of to make them look clever! My bookshelves would show someone who reads a lot of different stuff, from gardening to sci-fi and fantasy to medieval medicine.

  • I have never had a need to buy things to look clever or because it’s trendy fashionable etc. same about books. If I have a book it means that I’m reading it or red it or I’m going to read it. As a teenager I had quite several conversations with my family members about the social rules, and always whenever I asked but why? They got angry and in the end I got the answer: because it is social rule, because everybody does this etc. I was Never satisfied but my lack of self confidence forced me to stop talking and asking questions. My very recent faux pas was at work. One guy, he is some technician repairing lawnmowers and other devices. He likes to chat a lot, he is literally a chatterbox. And it annoys me because I have my waybills and deliveries to accept and control and he keeps brushing his tongue. So when he told me that his daughter is pregnant with her sixth child I made huge eyes and asked him: and she has enough money for so many children?! Then I thought omg! It’s none of my business! He looked confused but reassured me that they have enough money for so many kids. The result of that is that he stopped chatting with me. So it’s actually good outcome! 

  • If people starty trying to bully you, you could try asking if they've left the playground yet? Just stay in your adult self and reflect their absurditites back at them, I admit it's a horrible situation to be in.

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    Iain, thats part of the reason I don't bother with humans so much anymore, all the pettyness and stupidity dosen't make it worthwhile.

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  • If people starty trying to bully you, you could try asking if they've left the playground yet? Just stay in your adult self and reflect their absurditites back at them, I admit it's a horrible situation to be in.

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    Iain, thats part of the reason I don't bother with humans so much anymore, all the pettyness and stupidity dosen't make it worthwhile.

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