Can anyone tell me how to have an argument ASD to ASD? Sorry, I go on a bit…

Hello

I was diagnosed autistic last October. Always known I was different. Spotted autism in partner’s dad and it fascinated me. Also experience of children as a teacher. More I read, more I realised I was on the spectrum and fairly certain my other half is. We’ve been married for more than 20 years. We don’t argue hugely. But all our arguments follow the same unhelpful pattern… Argue. I try to say what I think went wrong. I try not to blame and attempt to say how I feel, not criticise. Partner always sees criticism. Says I’m blaming him. Starts bringing in everything else that’s wrong in our relationship to then, often, point out I need to change. Dredges history. Says I can’t do this anymore. Gets overwhelmed (I think) and shuts down for a couple of days. I’ve learnt this pattern and know to accept it. I say I’m not blaming but trying to find a solution so it doesn’t happen again and I don’t care who’s at fault. I think he can’t get beyond needing to pinpoint who’s at fault and seeing it as me saying he’s to blame. Do you have tips for handling this as two, I’m sure, autistic adults?

Eg The latest is over partner continuing a conversation with my parents about politics. We have different views to them. We’ve discussed avoiding it and trying to steer away. I could see he was getting animated, enjoying the conversation, and kicked him gently under the table. He responded positively to that and laughed and said I know, we need to move on, or something similar. But the conversation swung round, including him saying God forbid if XYZ gets in. He then said, before we move on, I want to find out what you think about Israel. I have never done this before but was getting so stressed that I interrupted and said, no that’s enough, we need to change topic. I was shocked when he then said So I can’t talk about something I’m interested in? I said it’s not something I want to end our conversation on before we leave - he then agreed and dad changed subject to cars. I couldn’t think how to bring it up without it spiralling the same way but by the time I went to bed, he noticed something might be wrong. And it spiralled. As above! I haven’t bothered trying to force my point and he has not accepted that anything he did was wrong. Says my dad continued the conversation and I can’t dictate what he does and doesn’t talk about. I said I would rather see my parents on my own than have conversations like that. It’s not family conversation. He interpreted that as me telling him I don’t want him to visit my parents. I reiterated that’s not what I said.

What am I doing wrong? We enjoy lots of the same stuff, have similar values etc but he thinks he’s lucky that his dad’s gene missed him! I don’t need him to be diagnosed but I wish he would see some of his character traits. I haven’t said this to him. I feel like I’ve spent my adult life trying to understand mine and how to behave as an adult. I find it very difficult to express my thoughts in an argument. Last time we texted each other and I felt that was better. This time, I just can’t bear bringing it up again and we’re just 24 hours post argument and this one doesn’t feel like it’s going anywhere.

Can anyone relate to this, ummm, rant! Sorry!

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  • Yeah, you can get along and communicate with him when both of you are positive, but the communication breaks down when it's negative, but I guess that's what's expected during arguments when no one sees eye to eye. But maybe try to de-escalate, maybe take a break from each other until the negative emotions have died down, and try communicating after things are calmer, and thoughts are better sorted out. Every relationship has arguments, but it's whether or not the both of you can find resolutions to problems. If you can, you'll form stronger bonds. If you can't, then it'll weaken the bonds.

    I think you have a great view of trying to find solutions to problems, but maybe your husband finds certain words triggering, like the word "wrong." If someone did something wrong, it automatically means in his mind that there's someone to blame for it. So maybe try using different words, or say that you just wanted his input on any solutions that he can think of to solve the problems, or reiterate that you were not trying to blame him, and bring out the good quality and traits you see in him.

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  • Yeah, you can get along and communicate with him when both of you are positive, but the communication breaks down when it's negative, but I guess that's what's expected during arguments when no one sees eye to eye. But maybe try to de-escalate, maybe take a break from each other until the negative emotions have died down, and try communicating after things are calmer, and thoughts are better sorted out. Every relationship has arguments, but it's whether or not the both of you can find resolutions to problems. If you can, you'll form stronger bonds. If you can't, then it'll weaken the bonds.

    I think you have a great view of trying to find solutions to problems, but maybe your husband finds certain words triggering, like the word "wrong." If someone did something wrong, it automatically means in his mind that there's someone to blame for it. So maybe try using different words, or say that you just wanted his input on any solutions that he can think of to solve the problems, or reiterate that you were not trying to blame him, and bring out the good quality and traits you see in him.

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