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Traditional / Old Fashioned Thinking

GPK26
10 months ago

As an older person with Autism, I was brought up in very different times with different thinking, values, acceptance, behaviour, etc (1970's & 80's).

The World has changed so much since then - both for better and worse.
There have been so many advancements - particularly in science and this has benefitted us ASD'ers immensely.

One thing that is troubling me is that I hold a lot of "principles" that in this day and age would be considered "Old Fashioned", "Traditional", maybe even "Bigotry" or worse.
There are things that I struggle to understand or accept which are based on my traditional attitude. I was brought up in an era when....

  • Boys had girlfriends and girls has boyfriends
  • You were born a boy and died a man
  • Men married women
  • Humour was not censored
  • People weren't "cancelled"

I openly discuss or rant about these topics along with some others that may be considered taboo with closed friends and family who have all become somewhat numb to my outrageousness / inappropriateness.

I have however managed to "behave" in public (stayed on the right side of the law), but occasionally do mutter things with a level of cowardice.
My concern is that now that I am officially autistic, the shackles of having to mask may have been broken and that has the potential of me saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

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  • 10 months ago

    My question I guess is, why are you clinging on to these values? Why are you not open to learning about the LGBTQIA+ community? If you have concerns over saying the wrong thing then perhaps it is time to open your mind up a little because I genuinely don't think you can blame your autism for being a biggot or for saying the wrong thing and I say this with kindness. 

  • 10 months ago in reply to Deleted user

    Because those are the values that BUILT our civilisations and the current values we are being fed are making us either a laughing stock or worse in the wider world as they openly marvel at our self hatred and destructiveness. 

    Fortunately, it's a CHOICE for me whether I need to know about LGBTQPNB issues, and I choose not to. Just as most of you choose not to learn how to fix your own stuff, not out of "bigotry", (at least I can spell the word!) but simple lack of interest. 

    I do find some of the ideas unworkable in practice, and idealism misplaced or even downright irritating when some strident person gets bent out of shape about my lack of interest in what is clearly a major obsession for many, but it used to be "football" that you had to like and that never engaged my interest either, and I fond the people who were able to fight in the streets about what team they support, just as ridiculous as some of what I see and read these days. 

    I wish they'd leave the poor kids out of it though, My generation didn't have anything like as many teenage suicides as my kids generation appear (definitely form observation, and also by repute) have..  

    I have a thread in my discord called "The other side of trans" and some of the testimony and imagery, is both horrific and heartbreaking. Many victims (I can't think of a more apt word) testify that they were encouraged in what they now feel was a life destroying or at least changing MISTAKE. At least that's how THEY see it, apparently that's wrong think these days, but it's their testimony.  

    But of course, it's all doubleplus good, comrade. Just so long as they don't reduce my chocolate rations..

    What's more important I guess it to remember who we are at war with today.

    Being accused of being a traitor is even worse than being accused of bigotry,and I do like my chocolate ration..

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  • 10 months ago in reply to Deleted user

    Because those are the values that BUILT our civilisations and the current values we are being fed are making us either a laughing stock or worse in the wider world as they openly marvel at our self hatred and destructiveness. 

    Fortunately, it's a CHOICE for me whether I need to know about LGBTQPNB issues, and I choose not to. Just as most of you choose not to learn how to fix your own stuff, not out of "bigotry", (at least I can spell the word!) but simple lack of interest. 

    I do find some of the ideas unworkable in practice, and idealism misplaced or even downright irritating when some strident person gets bent out of shape about my lack of interest in what is clearly a major obsession for many, but it used to be "football" that you had to like and that never engaged my interest either, and I fond the people who were able to fight in the streets about what team they support, just as ridiculous as some of what I see and read these days. 

    I wish they'd leave the poor kids out of it though, My generation didn't have anything like as many teenage suicides as my kids generation appear (definitely form observation, and also by repute) have..  

    I have a thread in my discord called "The other side of trans" and some of the testimony and imagery, is both horrific and heartbreaking. Many victims (I can't think of a more apt word) testify that they were encouraged in what they now feel was a life destroying or at least changing MISTAKE. At least that's how THEY see it, apparently that's wrong think these days, but it's their testimony.  

    But of course, it's all doubleplus good, comrade. Just so long as they don't reduce my chocolate rations..

    What's more important I guess it to remember who we are at war with today.

    Being accused of being a traitor is even worse than being accused of bigotry,and I do like my chocolate ration..

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