Rule 13: the last nail in NAS's coffin?

@Peter.Hi(.I try to reply on trolls.So they have always existed.Clear that on a small forum they are devastating.In the Forums where I have written so far they have been a bad occurrence, consider that there are many people with mental disorders.Some do not they don't even do it out of malice in my opinion. Others yes. If I can always give you my opinion, there are support forums for those who create new ones. And you try to ask those for advice on how they do it. § Sorry, it's very clear to me what you write.While it's not me, I'm sorry.§It's true about not knowing you.But in my opinion the problem is not only that.NAS for example from what I understand has a solid basis of credibility gained over many years .Then in the forum.§It has a small user base.I prefer a small base .Because they will be valid users.§The diagnoses of autism are too many.Some will not be of autism, but of something similar. there are many syndromes. And up until 5 years ago our number was small. § Many autistics have comorbid diagnoses, and things intersect. § I would also like to clarify some findings. It does not correspond to reality, the fact that valid diagnoses cannot be made ,. That is, in addition to Precision Medicine. Where, between simple and targeted blood tests, genetic tests can also be done. SI can directly and immediately understand both, for example, disorders, syndromes, aniseed, not only anxiety, autism, comorbidities, depressions. It is enough for doctors to insert the right requests to their colleagues and to look for specific markers. This is valid for any problem of all types. The diagnosis exists, and it is also a hyper-fast diagnosis. § In my country we have a system that in some Regions works wonderfully for minors. It can be diagnosed very early, or in a range of two years (late) or in adulthood for a fee or on research. §Therapies ditto: there are many and for minors it is It is essential that they are diagnosed immediately. The improvements are incredible. So that no one is psychologically discouraged, I am referring to the parents. Always have faith § At least with us, there are valid diagnoses in this. But one must not go beyond the age of majority after everything becomes so difficult. § The UK is a Nation of absolute importance in many cases. Often they are exemplary. Sometimes, like everyone else, they have problems. § Our Healthcare functioned but then the last Governments made a mistake by ruining it. § Treatment, diagnosis and therapies exist and there is much more of which we do not use.§As regards what the other users have written to you, there are many things that I agree with.I don't like it but I have read.§You are years old here, it also means that you, Peter, are definitely a valid person, (I understand it from the way you write ).Only that you don't have a strong base like a forum like this.§You could make use of forming groups on facebook and and those are also very important.Then there are other sites as well.The important thing is to help people.§The public of some siti is biologically very old (Even if we have peculiarities that don't make us age in our brain structure. intelligence is mixed but does not become crystallized, it remains fluid, then the neuronal interconnections are different from what is thought for NTs, but fora every brain works like this. Except for the fact that our structure is completely different from theirs. Neurons cannot only communicate with the synapses in agreement, but also on very distant and inverse areas. A very old friend has recovered from a heart attack that led to a serious stroke. § But something wonderful happens even for neurotypical people in a phase of serious crisis .

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Troll problem, ask the forum, I still doubt that without any basis it will be possible to form an extended group of autistics.
§ The rules: In my opinion, some can be revised, but rest assured that the freedom you enjoy here with us is we really dream of it!§Write something and you risk recall and ban immediately.Here, however, you appeal and they evaluate it afterwards.However, the forum leaves you a certain space that you would not have at all with us.§The rules applied to us autistics are a double weapon cut. If too peremptory, the discussion is abandoned. § Of course, if the user is clearly incorrect, then it must certainly be regulated. § Leave the discussion free. therefore according to the management of respect and good faith, avoiding flames, and always being ready to assert yourself is fundamental. The management of the community also depends on us, I meant that. Then the rules: whoever interviews does a lot of work because they have to read everything the published.Therefore it is not pleasant.§Even writing things in which you film the user is not pleasant§Therefore do not think of a group of harassed users, and of a forum conjugation fguppe as harassing.§We are in a place which without rules would have closed immediately. § A non-indexable space can be created in the forum, but it is only intended for users who do not want to end up on the internet. § Many of my posts are on the internet, but they are helpful. And I am pleased.

Two things:

U a for those who rate community posts.

Some of your posts ended up in the spam box!

I don't know if there is still a response to a dispute.

If so, give me more time, and excuse me because it just didn't appear to me.

They were different (many) I thought they were all accepted

Thank you


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Peter: I like the way you write and think, the feedback is trusted.

For me you have my trust.

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I would like to read your posts here.

Maybe all together we will be able to understand each other better even on the rules.
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Sorry for the first part, but now after reading the spam I've seen so many NAS messages and it's a bug in my software for which I apologize.

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For the rest ; I do not conceive that there are people in bad faith, nor wickedness.
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I struggle to understand these things.


I always think positive about users.

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Then there will be those who disappoint me.

Patience.

The spam function is frustrating. And frankly its discriminating too. I suspect in your case the fact you're writing english as a second language is causing more of your posts to be flagged. That's arguably discrimination on the basis of race. I'd give you some advice about what to do about that but evidently I'm not allowed.

I strongly suspect the mods will put their heads in the sand and won't stick their heads above the parapet until the next controversial thread pops up where some one 'sharing their experience' or providing 'information' or 'support.' At which point the issue of when support is advice will come up again. You see unless you define advice quite narrowly as saying something like "I think you should do this" it's hard to define what advice is.

A person could come to the forum and say "X, Y and Z happened to me and I don't know what to do." And I might respond to them by saying, "Well I can't advice you about your situation but in hypothetical situations where X, Y and Z options can be A, B and C and if P A has some pros and if Q C has some cons." That might be interpreted as advice. They certainly might infer a course of action from it. Or I might say "I was in a situation where X, Y and Z happened and what I did was A, B and C because P and Q." Any sort of constructive support, anything short of saying, 'well sucks to be you,' could be potentially interpreted as advice. And frankly I'm not interested in offering people mere sympathy and I'm sure they're not here looking for that either.

So mark my words this will come up again. The mods will ignore 'support' until they think the support is suggesting (abet implicitly) a course of action they don't approve of and at that point the support will magically become advice.

Not that you’re advising about not-advising the breaching of the limits of legal-limitation, of course, only a legal advisor can do that!

I would like to advise you about the lawful limits in terms of making explosives at home ... I'd like to but apparently I'm not allowed so go ahead make as much Semtex as you'd like.

I've come to the inevitable conclusion that the stuff I've read in the bible about Jesus Christ perfectly encapsulates the human experience. 

It does not guarantee an easy life to go around being as helpful and benevolent as you possibly can, indeed it really pisses the established power off, and can bring one too an unpleasant death.  

It's still better than not making the effort.

If I needed to use my head to breach a brick wall, I'd use it to make and lay a breaching charge out of common household ingredients like my dad taught me as a child (but updated using knowledge that is freely available on the normal internet...)

Yes. As hard as it was I can tell you bringing and running a law suit is far easier than trying to get people enthused about defending their own rights.

I didn't forget it, I discounted it was harder work than destroying the wall, and I was after pointing out the easy option.

Us Autists often "make our own wind" as a flying instructor once put it so succinctly. In my case I was trying so hard to control events, (Keep the bloody aeroplane flying down the invisible 3 degree slope that arrives at the numbers on the start of the runway in use) that the aeroplane was being affected more by my efforts to control it than by the actual mild crosswind that I was trying to compensate for. 

I note in Peter some of the frustration at life that I feel and the Urge to do something about it (I must go and join his website!) but as I've noted many times in the past just having a good idea, and even ding most of the work STILL isn't enough to get people to join in..

DeSpereaux said:

some of the worse feelings I even had was the realisation that I had not been followed by those who proscribed me to the situation..

Strong and loud resonance brother!

Hmm.. ‘ghosts pass through walls’, I’ll have to consider the meaning of that.. but i love the asking ‘what is it made of?’ thing..

I suppose that is another tool we still have, ‘the query’, perhaps if we take a more Socratic-approach when necessary, we could skirt the liability that way, make a ‘tunnel’ as-it-were.

Again I can’t argue with that, there is always a risk to being the first one though the breach, and I don’t have the intention of cheapening the weight of that risk in replying this way.

I do agree with you, I’ve actually been exploited for my willingness to be a shock-trooper in the past, some of the worse feelings I even had was the realisation that I had not been followed by those who proscribed me to the situation..

I definitely needed some validation after those occurrences..

Sorry, I deleted my post by mistake!

It's not wanted.

I have very sharp pain in my back, and I type very fast, and I skipped the right post!

I apologize to the moderation: it was not my intent

A beautiful dialogue between Ettore Majorana and Enrico Fermi at night, while Majorana was in his office thinking too many things at the same time.

Fermi asked him to help him.
He and his group of nuclear physicists hadn't solved a problem in 5 days.

The brick wall said Fermi we can't knock it down.

Majorana replied :_"It depends on what that wall is made of!"

Fermi looked at Majorna and her notebook.

She asked if he already had the solution:
Ettore replied: maybe yes, maybe not ENrico.


Then he thanked him because Fermi had given him only one thing to think about and not the thousand he thought before!

Majorana told him that in the morning he would give the solution.


Who had already written them for days.



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Majorana was probably Asperger's with Stellar iq according to the international stoics.

§As a student he calculated a Fermi problem in just two seconds in notebook (1.21 I think the solution).

Fermi took up the whole blackboard.

1.21 wrote then!

Many minutes later!


§A dear thing ... ghosts pass through walls!

A very nice answer they gave themselves then! :)

You forgot under?  I'm a tunneler out of preference.

As I thought?  You have never been faced with the wall that has already collapsed on top of you.....and you have no idea how deep you are buried....nor what you will face IF you can claw through the rubble to the surface again.

I'm not trying to be cute with you here Peter.....I'm merely trying to convey a sense of hopelessness and fear that I often see on these pages, where logical and dogmatic advice is simply pointless.

Sometimes, a bit of human love, connectedness and reassurance can mean ALL the difference.

Well in-theory if you go through it, whilst your head is in-the-game as-it-were, your return-journey will be a breeze, as well as the journeys for those that follow you..

Around or over those walls are easier and less painful than "through".

Oh if my response to a brick wall in life was to stop and give up I think I would have ended things a long time ago. For better or worse my response to a brick wall tends to be to slam my head into it repeatedly.

Firstly..oof. But I do agree that any light is much-appreciated when you’re in the dark. I have been grateful for such sustenance in the past, so maybe I’m being a little defensive, because I feel as if there is in-theory one-less string to my proverbial-bow.

Peter, you write like someone who has never felt truly hopeless and lost in life.  Lucky you?

When I was on my "mental knees," the smallest and simplest words of kindness or acknowledgement were enough to sustain me.

Generally, I hate platitudes and vapid reassurances...........but not when EVERYTHING looks utterly hopeless!  At those dark, dark times, a kind word can mean the world.

We are not a "one size fits all" community......and our members do not (I expect) always seek or want hard-nosed assessments of the facts that they can see for themselves.

Just my opinion.

Yep there’s definitely some cavities developing in this trusty-old maw..

Yeah. Completely useless. You can't reassure people things will be alright if they probably won't. Especially if their best chance of getting a good outcome is taking action. That's actually unethical. Distraction doesn't really work via a web forum and validation is a hollow feeling if it's impotent to act. It's almost like rubbing salt in the wound.

Yeah. Completely useless. You can't reassure people things will be alright if they probably won't. Especially if their best chance of getting a good outcome is taking action. That's actually unethical. Distraction doesn't really work via a web forum and validation is a hollow feeling if it's impotent to act. It's almost like rubbing salt in the wound.

Tell that to Chez Copeland.

Bugger actually making the stuff, that's dangerous!! 

Not that you’re advising about not-advising the breaching of the limits of legal-limitation, of course, only a legal advisor can do that!

I would like to advise you about the lawful limits in terms of making explosives at home ... I'd like to but apparently I'm not allowed so go ahead make as much Semtex as you'd like.

I've come to the inevitable conclusion that the stuff I've read in the bible about Jesus Christ perfectly encapsulates the human experience. 

It does not guarantee an easy life to go around being as helpful and benevolent as you possibly can, indeed it really pisses the established power off, and can bring one too an unpleasant death.  

It's still better than not making the effort.

If I needed to use my head to breach a brick wall, I'd use it to make and lay a breaching charge out of common household ingredients like my dad taught me as a child (but updated using knowledge that is freely available on the normal internet...)

Yes. As hard as it was I can tell you bringing and running a law suit is far easier than trying to get people enthused about defending their own rights.

I didn't forget it, I discounted it was harder work than destroying the wall, and I was after pointing out the easy option.

Us Autists often "make our own wind" as a flying instructor once put it so succinctly. In my case I was trying so hard to control events, (Keep the bloody aeroplane flying down the invisible 3 degree slope that arrives at the numbers on the start of the runway in use) that the aeroplane was being affected more by my efforts to control it than by the actual mild crosswind that I was trying to compensate for. 

I note in Peter some of the frustration at life that I feel and the Urge to do something about it (I must go and join his website!) but as I've noted many times in the past just having a good idea, and even ding most of the work STILL isn't enough to get people to join in..

DeSpereaux said:

some of the worse feelings I even had was the realisation that I had not been followed by those who proscribed me to the situation..

Strong and loud resonance brother!

Hmm.. ‘ghosts pass through walls’, I’ll have to consider the meaning of that.. but i love the asking ‘what is it made of?’ thing..

I suppose that is another tool we still have, ‘the query’, perhaps if we take a more Socratic-approach when necessary, we could skirt the liability that way, make a ‘tunnel’ as-it-were.

Again I can’t argue with that, there is always a risk to being the first one though the breach, and I don’t have the intention of cheapening the weight of that risk in replying this way.

I do agree with you, I’ve actually been exploited for my willingness to be a shock-trooper in the past, some of the worse feelings I even had was the realisation that I had not been followed by those who proscribed me to the situation..

I definitely needed some validation after those occurrences..

Sorry, I deleted my post by mistake!

It's not wanted.

I have very sharp pain in my back, and I type very fast, and I skipped the right post!

I apologize to the moderation: it was not my intent

A beautiful dialogue between Ettore Majorana and Enrico Fermi at night, while Majorana was in his office thinking too many things at the same time.

Fermi asked him to help him.
He and his group of nuclear physicists hadn't solved a problem in 5 days.

The brick wall said Fermi we can't knock it down.

Majorana replied :_"It depends on what that wall is made of!"

Fermi looked at Majorna and her notebook.

She asked if he already had the solution:
Ettore replied: maybe yes, maybe not ENrico.


Then he thanked him because Fermi had given him only one thing to think about and not the thousand he thought before!

Majorana told him that in the morning he would give the solution.


Who had already written them for days.



§


Majorana was probably Asperger's with Stellar iq according to the international stoics.

§As a student he calculated a Fermi problem in just two seconds in notebook (1.21 I think the solution).

Fermi took up the whole blackboard.

1.21 wrote then!

Many minutes later!


§A dear thing ... ghosts pass through walls!

A very nice answer they gave themselves then! :)

You forgot under?  I'm a tunneler out of preference.

As I thought?  You have never been faced with the wall that has already collapsed on top of you.....and you have no idea how deep you are buried....nor what you will face IF you can claw through the rubble to the surface again.

I'm not trying to be cute with you here Peter.....I'm merely trying to convey a sense of hopelessness and fear that I often see on these pages, where logical and dogmatic advice is simply pointless.

Sometimes, a bit of human love, connectedness and reassurance can mean ALL the difference.

Well in-theory if you go through it, whilst your head is in-the-game as-it-were, your return-journey will be a breeze, as well as the journeys for those that follow you..

Around or over those walls are easier and less painful than "through".

Oh if my response to a brick wall in life was to stop and give up I think I would have ended things a long time ago. For better or worse my response to a brick wall tends to be to slam my head into it repeatedly.

Firstly..oof. But I do agree that any light is much-appreciated when you’re in the dark. I have been grateful for such sustenance in the past, so maybe I’m being a little defensive, because I feel as if there is in-theory one-less string to my proverbial-bow.

Peter, you write like someone who has never felt truly hopeless and lost in life.  Lucky you?

When I was on my "mental knees," the smallest and simplest words of kindness or acknowledgement were enough to sustain me.

Generally, I hate platitudes and vapid reassurances...........but not when EVERYTHING looks utterly hopeless!  At those dark, dark times, a kind word can mean the world.

We are not a "one size fits all" community......and our members do not (I expect) always seek or want hard-nosed assessments of the facts that they can see for themselves.

Just my opinion.