Nobody asks me to hang out even after I have invited them out many times

I've been having this problem for the past few years. I had a friend who I asked to hang out with him 8 times and I asked him to return the favour, maybe just a few times but he wouldn't. The relationship I was in, I asked that guy repeatedly out for 8 months every week without fail. Yet, when I asked for the favour to be returned, it never happened. I ended up dumping him. Now, with a friend, I've had for 14 years, I thought if she'd set it in her calendar to ask me to hang out every second month then I'd get invites. But obviously, she didn't even do it. I feel like people are so selfish. I act normal, I don't have one-way conversations and I'm likeable (as told by my friends). But no one wants to put the effort into inviting me out. At this point, I feel like there's no point in going out. I get anxiety after a while if the people who I've asked don't return the favour. I'd rather protect my mental health.

  • I just started dating someone else who is also autistic. We may be better matched but I'm starting to feel apathetic towards the whole dating and friendship making thing. I even feel apathetic towards my university degree. I mean, who works 10-12 hour days just to score a C or a D in the end? I decided to graduate a year early.

  • I just completely turn my empathy off. Somehow my empathy has an on and off switch. I've known this since I was 11.

  • Lol, I belittled my ex and said I never fell for him, loved him or found him attractive in an email after I broke up with him. This was the truth. I knew he fell for me which he said plenty of times. I criticised all his shortcomings even but I'm pretty sure I dominate people in a really horrible way.

  • Exactly! If I won't want to do something, I will actually say I don't want to. While other people with their social niceties will just say yes and don't mean that.

  • I get this and I'm sorry because I know what people are like. To them it's just words but for some with autism it's a promise, a commitment and these things should be held up but very rarely are which is frustrating and annoying.

    I get this at school. Talk to a teacher and she'll say we'll look through the books during lunch, see you at 12. 12 comes and I'm there but she isn't. Ten past still no sign. Lunch ends and she comes back in, doesn't even acknowledge that I was here waiting. :/

    I wish when people say they'll do something they actually do it. If I say I'm doing something and I'll be there at a specific time I never backtrack or forget.

  • It stuck with you because someone awakened something very natural within you. 

    NeuroTypical brain-wiring is incredibly focused (so it's been somewhat discovered) on language and semiotic  compartments. They have strong connectors here. Language is organic, it can shape shift. For someone like me who thinks in vivid imagery rather than in language (some people have an internal monologue they 'hear'), I see Sunday and Visual us doing a thing, therefore the date and plan is set in to a future existence we will bring into reality.

    This is not how NTs are wired. They are wired to move in murmuration, do what the strongest in the tribe does. We both have our Strengths but NTs dominate the planet right now, so Tribal thinking is the expected norm.

    Have you ever read A Field Guide to Earthlings? It may help. 

  • You could benegfit from watching all of his videos. He gives advices not just shares experience, to all neurotypes, how we can make it happen to live together in peace

  • I haven't watched the video but I thinking meeting in the middle is a good place to aim for everyone from all walks of life. 

  • yeah, same here all the time in honesty, someone who ive burnt bridges with a few times already and trying to have more regular contact with, hard to call him a mate, 

    a while back said "when im not busy, meet up sometime" etc, i basically responded with "dont say that, cos when you inevitably forget, i wont" so, no advice to give you really, but been like that for me all my life, if empathy is of any use 

  • it happened by chance for me, I moved in where my first friend lived next door, 2nd friend started working in the same place I did work already

  • I wonder how I can find those people.

  • there are people that do

  • I watched this. Yeah, I feel like people aren't willing to meet me halfway, I always have to meet them halfway.

  • It's difficult to communicate with allistic, and it causes us a lot of stress, but like it was said exoecting from them what we expect from ourselves is unrealistic and it will only cause more stress

    I wa tched video made by autistamatic, saying that in order to succeed we need to meet halfway, and if others don't get it we should talk to them about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydoScZxY6MQ&list=PL3R_uyUBjsuBozC9uMrd8NLX1A5BgSyWE&index=4 

  • Yeah, they are NT's. No kids and just regular part-time jobs or 9-5 jobs. 

  • I just report people to the police if they do something illegal. For some reason, NT's hate this move. But I feel like nobody stands up to people anymore.

  • I understand the frustration of everything feeling one sided but I don’t think people usually schedule times to ask each other to meet up. I very rarely see my friends, we don’t live particularly close which doesn’t help but we’re not chatting loads on the phone either but we still know we’re there for each other. Are your friends actually NT? Do they have kids or demanding jobs? Adulthood is really great at sucking the energy out of people, especially with parenthood thrown in. There are also a lot of undiagnosed folk out there who tend to end up finding each other. If your friends happen to have ADHD for example it will be very difficult for them to work to a schedule or even remember people exist at times. Doesn’t mean they don’t care it’s just the way their brains work. Maybe your friends have social anxiety and prefer staying home most of the time? On the other hand if these friends are going out together without you that’s a whole different issue

  • they can tell you dont have the killer instinct to monetize, dominate and belittle other people, so they are probably wondering what you can contribute that wont embarrass them. 

  • I really dislike this. I feel like if I say something, I mean it. If I say, I'll ask you to hangout next month, I actually will do that. I really dislike the one-sidedness of things, I'd rather not invest in something that gives me zero sum returns. I think NT's lack commitment in following through with things. In school, we got harshly disciplined about this sort of thing and it's stayed with me until now and I've graduated university.

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