Are politics aloud to be discussed openly or do mods sensor that topic to lol or are politics only aloud be discussed so long as your left or a liberal like most other social media sites. If so then this site can ******* [edited by moderator]

For example Freedom of speach I have the right to say god is a **** because there is no god or I think Starmer from the labor party is a comie maximast *** because hey guess what this isn't Russia

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Freedom of speech is not the imposition of speech / imputation of mind as you have in writing expressed, but is the equivalent of holding a driving license and not being permitted to drive ‘dangerously’ (offensively).

you dont know what freedom is then lol
the gov truly has done its work on you and made george orwel and aldus huxley proud.

technically everything you can say is offensive to someone, hence your not allowed to say anything by your definition of freedom of speach and everyone must have their mouths sowed up at birth and have inserted a hole for a feeding and hydration tube. they must then be forced to a chair all day and forced to watch a tv programme 8 hours a day on what the government says is right or wrong and what they can or cant do and what they must think. so much for having deeps thoughts lol more like government sanctioned thoughts, that is your new name, governmentapprovedthought

Good man, decent post!

already pointed that out myself. that freedom most people cannot comprehend and when they got it they wouldnt want it as theyd want their cages back as their cages and dictators offer security and structure of life. hence pointed out how freedom doesnt exist for we trade it in for security and freedom is chaos that none of us would like and yet our governments would always claim that they are representatives of freedom when they quite clearly arnt and cannot be.

the part of me that wants structure and security and wants to play ball with society is the part of me that respects and desires law and order, to the point of authoritarianism, to the point of rioters must be dealt with in a way that permanently deals with that threat to order of society..... but yet my isolationist want to stay out of society hermit part of me that just wants to live in a forest away from any human in peace is the part that desires that harsh freedom in which most of humanity would perish and our structures would fall and perhaps a world in which i can find and attain that untouched peace would come about if i survived it lol but if i didnt survive i wouldnt care and so id have got peace anyway. which makes it very attractive.

my mind has always been very polar opposite like that though, on one hand desiring things to be absolute right and ordered, and on the other hand desiring to just quit and not caring and letting things tumble as they are in order to gain peace. i guess to me if things arnt done correct then the best thing is to say *** it and let it fail. if you dont do it right dont do it at all. if it doesnt work no point in tryna half ass it.

i guess my natural sense is the quitter sense, the sense to see that struggling to attain order is like trying to swim against a strong current, your still going down stream but by the time you arrive downstream your shattered and worn out and stressed, while if you just relaxed and did nothing youd get to the same place without stress and be perfectly fine. this is why its best to say *** it and quit if things dont go right, because even if you quit your still ending in the same place anyway no matter what you do. struggle only needlessly wears you down in everything. the poor person ends up in the same position as the person that worked all their life, the worker stressed and toiled for nothing by results. all in all everyones life is just heading to death, all paths is a dead end because life is a dead end, so theres really no point trying or struggling in anything. so you quit, and find happiness, and then perhaps realise society could do with that, maybe order needs to fall to chaos, maybe we need freedom no matter what cost it comes with, because no matter the cost we was all going to die anyway in whichever path we went down. most mental illness would perhaps not even exist if we didnt have life the way it is, mental illness is perhaps humans trying ti slot themselves into this modern way of ordered life which we perhaps cant live to. as we see many on here have trouble getting a job or getting on in life, but perhaps that wouldnt be the case if we let society collapse, perhaps they would be the ones with the best natural instincts to survive in a dangerous world of freedom and their natural instincts are the thing that make them not be able to exist in a structured societal ordered world.

ahhhh im totally getting massively sidetracked there with brain farts lol im not sure whether its night time that makes me thing and go on like that or the fact i havent had much time to random text vomit in a while.

Caelus. The "exclusionary sjw lefty offence culture" IS mainstream thinking at this time in history.

I suspect you'll agree.

I've personally been nominated for exclusion from this forum THREE times since I joined, by EXACTLY those types, but the admin people have seen though that crap..

Indeed at one point, when a particularly insane leftist lost his marbles and started accusing me of all sorts of unpleasantry, up to and including being a "holocaust denying member of the national socialist party" (yet the lefty's identify as "socialists"!) there was a bit of an uprising here where people actually stood by me!

But. It wasn't really very pleasant for anyone, and to be honest, I bear some of the responsibility for what happened because it was my post that "triggered" the bloke, even though that was not my intent.

Politics at the moment is super "triggering" for many people, as we have recently been conditioned by our media to be that way. We are a forum jam packed with people who are a bit fed up with getting the sh177y end of the stick, so the requirement that we try and be accepting of each other and not go looking for "controversy" is a fair one. And reasonable too, after all the internet is a big place, it isn't hard to find a forum where it is more appropriate to have a full on political discussion. It is getting hard to find a forum where you can say what ever you like, admittedly.

On the one forum where I go where that used to be the case, although it was fascinating to watch (and somewhat cathartic to join in) most such discussions seemed to rapidly gravitate towards vile obscenity and unsupported personal accusations of sexual misconduct. Actually, pretty much all of them, apart from those that were calling outright for the elimination of entire countries with nuclear weapons, usually middle eastern ones, (presumably because they can't wipe us out in return..) 

However, in amongst al the dreck that appears when you allow people to say ANYTHING, some fundamental truths and suppressed information also got an airing, making the whole unpleasantness somewhat educational.

I, for example, have never understood why one particular group of people have been persecuted throughout history.

When I got to see representatives of that culture and their would-be persecutors duking it out on a public forum, quite a lot of (previously unknown to me) factual information emerged, and now I do understand why that has happened so consistently to those particular people. It was also "transferrable knowledge" that gave me a better insight into why I-Sperg occasionally has to deal with persecution.

So yes, unrestricted speech in the right place I feel is very desirable and neccesary, but clearly that place is not this forum. The NAS are clearly trying to create a more loving and supportive environment where we can deal with AUTISM rather than politics.

Maybe I'll see you on zerohedge one day? Now that is a place where you can have all the political discussion your heart could ever desire, but even there, the google "censor" has wheedled it's way in, and now you can't say just anything you like, so it's a bit less visceral than it used to be. But it's about as close to totally free speech as you are ever likely to encounter in this brave new world.

"Freedom without responsibility" is such an attractive concept, until you realise that is what they were enjoying in most of Africa until we showed up.

If you want freedom to live your life without some self appointed warlord and his cronies excercising his freedom to try and take your life, the only way you get that if if everyone agrees to be less "free" in that way. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" is the creed of the Satanists and is also known as the "Law of the jungle". 

Which raises the question, how much "freedom" do you want to give to those people who would cheerful use it to oppress or exterminate people like you and me? Do you for example applaud the "freedoms" that were recently extended to BLM to act as they sit fit in american cities? Do you support Kyle Rittenhouse's freedom to carry a rifle? Do you support freedom of religious expression for the religions who tell their followers that they are the ones chosen by god and that all others are by that religions definition "subhuman" and only there to be exploited?

"Freedom" is not so simple is it?

far as i can tell im sticking to the rules, i doubt anyone uses the forums as a info about autism thing but rather as perhaps finding others that they identify with or feel similar to as theyd likely have suffered a lifetime of social alienation if they truly have autism. hence they come to a forum like this to perhaps find out if they click with others. so all this exclusionary sjw lefty offence culture isnt really welcome here for the use of the forum as it acts as another layer of exclusionism and alienation which isnt what people coming here want. in a way it needs to be more centrist, as centrism is the acceptance and listening to all sides and not excluding either or giving either of the other sides the power to exclude the other.

Caelus said:

nature doesnt care about your societal laws though...

They are not my societal laws, and the issue being addressed is actually the freedom of expression on this website of forums, and the community rules involved with so doing.

Caelus said:

thats the thing...

Only it wasn't...