Leaving the site.

Although it's pointless commenting now the OP has left, they did seem to have resistance to seeing things from any other perspective, which is a shame because some of us did try to engage with them.

As Tassimo mentioned, many people come in, get angry or frustrated, and then leave. I must confess, I even got bored myself. I couldn't wrap my head around why so many here are depressed and anxious all the time, but then, I'm angry, frustrated, or ambivalent much of the time. Different experiences, different perspectives, different manifestations of our conditions.

As Martin mentioned, and many seem to forget, a narrow field of view is a particularly common and strong trait of autism. To be honest, the few autistic people I've met can be some of the most frustrating to have a discussion with because of, well, autism. But that's also what makes it interesting.

That's why I always mention perspective and perception, partly also to remind myself that it isn't all about me. Actually, it is all about me, hahaha 

It seems some people come in demanding to be helped, blame the world for everything, but either refuse the help people on here try to offer, or don't actually want to be helped at all.

I have been combative, aggressive, nihilistic at times in my life, but even I am dismayed at some of the anger and hatred that is sometimes expressed on the forum.

And as KikiCat said, all we have to do is take a break, calm down a bit, find some distractions elsewhere, then come back when we're ready to engage again.

Sometimes, we have to look at ourselves really hard and ask whether, even in some very small way, we might actually be part of our own problem. I mean, not all of my problems are caused by the world around me...

I think the OP might have also mistaken this place for Reddit or Twitter, hahahaaa.

I think the OP might have also mistaken this place for Reddit or Twitter, hahahaaa.

doubtful, you cant post anything on twitter without being banned outright. twitter is the sound of complete silence as you cant post anything without being hit by the ban hammer.

Haha, yeah, I was joking.

I meant it in the context of the irrational and combative tone of some of their comments. 

I haven't been on Twitter in ages because it seems impossible for it not to turn into some kind of sh*tshow.

I Sperg said:

People get agitated about the really, really, small stuff now.

Well increasing levels of 'normalised abuse' are taking people away from being comfortably numb and dumb about it ~ all the way up to experiencing excruciatingly red raw and sore levels of ringing-stinging agony about it now.

Martin said:

After a while, one gets a ineradicable fence-top indentation in the hindquarters. Possibly the only drawback.

I take the more comfortable position of wondering peacefully along proverbial alleyways or relaxing in contemplative gardens between the fences.

Or if one feels more proactive perhaps ~ sit comfortably like as do umpire's at tennis matches, and call, "OUT! ~ 2 SQUARES; 4 RECTANGLES!" when people are as if arguing (in absolute 'all-or-nothing' terms) that a cuboid block (representing the subject matter) has only a single square or only a single rectangle as being it's entire surface area.

Martin said:

Autistic humans are still humans, to expect superior beings is probably unrealistic.

I am not a 'human' myself but I am though a human 'being', and the only thing realistic about 'survival of the elitist' delusions as opposed to natural and actual selection without coercion ~ is the compound and compounding issues that result from 'excessive competition' and 'regressive cooperation'.

As a former cell biologist, I too think of the body as a machine; a soft, squishy machine that is incredibly complex, but still obeys all the physical and chemical rules of the universe.

Martin said:

After a while, one gets a ineradicable fence-top indentation in the hindquarters. Possibly the only drawback

Not if one balances a comfy chair on top of said fence, but it's a somewhat precarious situation with the risk of toppling into one side, or the other. 

Martin said:

Autistic humans are still humans, to expect superior beings is probably unrealistic.

Indeed. That's how I think about things. Humans do what humans do, what animals do, it's in our nature, we are animals after all. 

But we do have the mental capacity as a species to try to circumvent our natural animal behaviours, to a certain degree.

I'm no scientist, but I think that's why I get more comfort reading about neurobiology and neurochemistry etc to try to understand what is actually going on inside. When I was young, I imagined myself as a robot or android, and I see the body in some ways as a biological machine. So understanding some of the machinery helps me understand myself a bit better.

Very true. So much is automated now that we have little to intellectually challenge us. I regularly feel 'intellectually challenged' - that's how my good friends describe me too sometimes, ha ha.

'ineradicable' - a new word for me! Lovely word too - thank you.

After a while, one gets a ineradicable fence-top indentation in the hindquarters. Possibly the only drawback. Autistic humans are still humans, to expect superior beings is probably unrealistic.

Yes, Yes.

I was looking for cool reflection and supportive information when I was finding out about ASC, but I soon began to realise that it potentially was just another tribe, with infighting, and outfighting. That was exactly what I was trying to get away from with my diagnosis, and find more understanding.

The irony is, a facet of autism has a slant toward a narrowing of interests. I suppose it makes sense why certain bodies are concerned about the connection between autism and radicalisation, for example.

Anyway, yeah, I do tend to focus too much on the smaller details, but I also spend a lot of time pondering the bigger picture.

The problem is, I completely miss the middle bit, the bit where people actually exist and interact, hahaha.

Yes, Yes.

I was looking for cool reflection and supportive information when I was finding out about ASC, but I soon began to realise that it potentially was just another tribe, with infighting, and outfighting. That was exactly what I was trying to get away from with my diagnosis, and find more understanding.

The irony is, a facet of autism has a slant toward a narrowing of interests. I suppose it makes sense why certain bodies are concerned about the connection between autism and radicalisation, for example.

Anyway, yeah, I do tend to focus too much on the smaller details, but I also spend a lot of time pondering the bigger picture.

The problem is, I completely miss the middle bit, the bit where people actually exist and interact, hahaha.