Autism and sexual desire

Nothing against the porn industry. Actually, I think it's wrong so many people like it, yet in the same breath condemn it. I think it's great. Yick, 50 shades of grey is not a positive example/happy thing in the bdsm community. I think we should evaluate society's and our own personal mental modules to find out internally what's going on with us/what we're told/what we like.

I'm not sure I agree with this - look how many millions of copies of 50 Shades were sold - almost 100% bought by women.     I wouldn't say more cerebral - just more inhibited and judgemental about sex.     Blokes are seen as 'horn-dogs' because of the more overt porn industry.

I very much doubt that. Remember Ego-dystonic sexual orientation was removed from the DSM not because the APA felt it didn't exist but because it wasn't their place to suggest it should be treated and that any event all the treatments that had been documented had no proven effectiveness.

I suspect they'd take the same view with hyper sexuality. Not their place to suggest variant sexual behaviour should be treated unless it causes objective harm. In cases where there is no viable treatment even if the behaviour is undesired by the person displaying it.

I very much doubt they'd wish to be seen as medicalising hypersexuality where the parties involved experience no distress as a result.

I think women are "cerebral" and ASD women more so. I think that's why Outlander or a period drama is more exhilerating/sexy for 1 kiss that took 20 episodes than watching something racier that "gets to the point" faster. How can we capture the romance/mental interest w/o being corny or getting into a script. That's the question. I've often told my husband....I think women are "in their brain" and men are "in their body" to get into sex. Ok--last post for a while--this topic is interesting....but don't want to get into trouble lol. 

I relate to this alot. I hear the common categories are asexual, bi, poly for many on the spectrum according to Sarah Hendricks (great spokesperson for Natl Autistic Society)...she's got a great video on Youtube.

Do you feel like pressure/stress in your life affects this? I know I do. Or maybe you can be intimate, but your needs for this are very minimal to be happy? Maybe intimacy makes you uncomfortable/smothered? My intimacy needs/wants change & I wonder if just like going mute/shutdown...there are people who just go 'asexual' for a little while. 

"Hypersexuality is not included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition. It was previously listed in the DSM-4 as a Sexual Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified with the definition "distress about a pattern of repeated sexual relationships involving a succession of lovers who are experienced by the individual only as things to be used." 

The 2010 proposal for the addition of hypersexual disorder into the DSM-5 included the criteria of uncontrollable sexual behavior. Supporters of the behavior's inclusion argued that people who engage in this excessiveness suffer from great distress. In the proposed criteria, hypersexual disorder was conceived as a nonparaphilic sexual desire disorder with an impulsivity component.

The proposed diagnosis was not added to the DSM-5. Experts note that there isn’t enough empirical evidence to support the diagnosis.  - I would say this will change when they get more evidenc.  So I expect there to be a reappearance in later editions.

Where have I see this mostly? In workplaces all over the show.  I imagine there is far more evidence than they think and it could just be a case of people who suffer from this also conceal and lie about it (narcissistic NT people?) If you are all about keeping up appearances and making sure people think the best of you are you really going to explain you use the people around you like objects for your own gratification? I think not.

I'm using the 4th edition so in my world it is a condition and it will be again 

sexual desire varies across all humans  and indeed species. Try breeding Pandas

I've never been interested in sex, used to think you only did it to have a child, then realised people in couples were doing it all the time. Used to make me feel a bit abnormal but got used to the idea now. Also a woman by the way, 27 years old 

This is me too. Once we are there, I'm fine, but getting there in the first place is an effort. 

Hi!  I personally have always had a low sexual desire.  I'm not one for touchy-feely affection or cuddling from anyone (hubby, mom) unless I'm not feeling well, but there are limits with that, too.  Unfortunately, my antidepressants make it worse.  Hubby can be a cuddle bug and has a normal sex drive, but he understands how psych medication affects libido.  The bad/confusing part is I enjoy being with my husband sexually, but I lack the desire to get to that point of intimacy.  For me, it's like taking a shower or making a favorite dish.  I put it off and put it off, but when I take the shower or have my favorite dish, it really hits the spot.  

Peter said:

So really being a 'horn dog' is really not a medical condition.

NAS71674 said:

Being hypersexual means you have a condition not that your just open and liberal.

Is it? hyper-sexuality isn't in the DSM-5. the closest equivalent in the ICD-11 is 6C72 Compulsive sexual behaviour disorder which only applies to those who can't restrain their sexual impulses  not those who choose not to. To quote the final paragraph of the ICD-11 entry

"The pattern of failure to control intense, sexual impulses or urges and resulting repetitive sexual behaviour is manifested over an extended period of time (e.g., 6 months or more), and causes marked distress or significant impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational, or other important areas of functioning. Distress that is entirely related to moral judgments and disapproval about sexual impulses, urges, or behaviours is not sufficient to meet this requirement."

So really being a 'horn dog' is really not a medical condition.

Most animals that enjoy sex will masturbate - some using a form of frottage as a dominance enforcement - like dolphins and chimps do.

Masturbation and orgasms aren't about procreation, it is just a good sensation to experience and relieves a lot of tension. 

Honestly, we may be evolved from something more primitive but we still have plenty of flaws 

That was because Peep Shows and Decadence were rife in that era.

'Night People' by John Cooper Clarke.

I'm not doubting that you're a good person and that you hold noble standards - as do I.      I'm realistic though and I know that the vast majority of people out there have variable standards for everything they do when convenience allows.        Given the opportunity, they will sink to the lowest possible denominator.

Thats the NT population. I am evolved. I go out of my way to help other people even to my own detriment at times because its the right thing to do. My concept of right (order, predictability, fairness, stability) , wrong ( chaos, unpredictability, unfairness, instability) is fairly well developed. Its not based on religious beliefs its motivated by my autistic tendencies. 

Everyone like to believe they are 'evolved' - remember last March's toilet roll shortage?    It's a (tissue)paper-thin facade between us and the wild-man.

We create our own purpose there is no predefined purpose. We can survive without sex no problem, we can die without food and drink not if we have sex. Its not us who wants to procreate its our DNA , thats a biological process that can malfunction so that we don't have that desire (so what purpose is that really, its just biology, science, not purpose ) but we can still have purpose that we define for ourselves. You are sounding like a NT person that's a key way that they think i.e. grab all we can for ourselves and screw everyone else.