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School wants my little boy to go elsewhere with an arb, need some impartial views

lukes mummy

just before we broke up from school my little boys teacher and seNCO asked me to go in and have a chat. He'si just turned 6 and has been in the school since nursery , he has been diagnosed with mild to moderate autism. He struggles with reading and writing , brilliant on a computer and not too bad with making friends and also does well with the structure of school....sorry went off on a tangent there but thought I'd add a bit of info about him. Anyway we have always said to the school he can be very aggressive at times   But we know what buttons not to press , I'm sure you know what I mean. So it has calmed down a lot over the last year. The school always said 'he's not showing any behaviour like that at school' etc but now they have had a few incidences , one being punching another child and the other not letting go of scissors and running off with them. He is statemented for 15 hours which we have always said is not enough but just get the response of , he won't get anymore hours. On his statement it clearly says he needs supervision in unstructured hours which he doesn't get as the teacher/senco say he needs the hours in class time. 

Anyway in the meeting they said that someone came into school, for another child may I add and commented that Luke, my son would get more from a school with a specialised arb uniT . I'm not very good standing up to teachers and always feel quite intimidated, so took there advise and started looking at other schools. My husband works full time so wasn't there at the meeting. he feels and now I do after alot of worrying ands stress that the school are sort of giving up on him. He is happy in the school and has friends and has a lovely support Teacher. They said that its within our rights to keep him in the school if we want to but feel he is not flourishing in the school and emphasised that he would be much better in school with more resources. 

We are going into school when term starts in September to discuss it more with them. But I just wondered if anyone has had any similar experiences and what was the outcome. Did you get any support from anyone proffessionals outside the school . 

it's not a good thing to have hanging for six weeks.

thanks for reading I know it's a lot of waffle lol

Kim x

  • Thankyou moonraker and mum of 3 lots of good advice Thankyou . We have someone coming out from the autism team on Tuesday so I think. We are going to start there and then contact the la and discuss it with them, we suggested the shorter days to the school earlier on in the year and they just dismissed it by saying his funded hours might get cut.but it sounds like that could be an option. We have moved a few times over the last few years but we have kept in in that school so he didn't have disruption and upset moving schools,he is mostly happy to go to school and he knows everyone there, and is familiar with the school, staff and the routine. It's just sort of come from nowhere , other than these couple of incidences. I've spoken to a few of the other mums and they can't believe it , one of the comments was that some of the children without sen are worse than Luke and that we should fight it.so that's what we are going to do.wish us luck x

  • I would contact the LEA someone will be there even though the schools are closed for the holidays, dont be fobbed off about leaving things until September. State your concerns and follow up the call with everything in writing, keep a copy.

    Your son has a statement -a legal document what is in it must happen, if he has been allocated 15 hours support this is what he must receive, not to be shared with someone else. The extra 5 hours the school are providing could be used/shared for unstructured time, also dont be afraid to only allow your son into school when supported, my son is on a reduced timetable for this reason. Keep in your mind that the education your son receives has to be right for him, once size does not fit all.

    Good luck, never give up and be strong,  your son deserves a happy, meaningful education.

  • Thanks for the reply aspermum . Yes I contacted parent partnership and the lady I spoke to was really nice. She sent me a leaflet about questions to ask a new school but said to phone anytime for advise or support. 

    His school teacher and senco basicly said that he wasn't getting the support he needed and thought that he would do so much better in a school with an. Arb. They also said that  to move him now would be a lot easier than later down the line. 

    His statement has just been renewed and. It was just the same as last time, it says all the necessary requirements for him but these have not really been fully met especially the supervised unstructured times. This I feel is the time where other children wind him up or he gets stressed because he wants his own space or stressed because he can't join in etc. they also said that the area they take him to for quiet time is not good enough(medical room) but shouldn't they have thought about all this when he came from nursery, I'm probably going on again sorry .

    he is sat on a desk with another sen who he hates with a passion bless him and they know this but hit hey share the support teacher, again I don't think that is right . The other child has a statement and had funding for 25 hours and Luke has a statement for 15 hours and school said they were supplying funding for another 5 hours. Surely they should both have a support worker each so they get the attention they need.

    anyway Thankyou again and you've given me some good advice. I think I will contact the council and see what they have to say about it all.

  • Hi lukes mummy!

    Why do schools seem to do this? Just when you're looking forward to a bit of a break from all the school stuff, they go and throw something like this at you!

    If you haven't already done so, can I urge you to contact your local parent partnership service? This is a link to the national website where you can look up details for the service in your area.

    http://www.parentpartnership.org.uk/find-your-pps/

    The services provided do vary a little from area to area, but they all provide free, impartial advice to parents of children with SEN, some will even offer a trained, parental supporter to attend meetings in school with you.

    There needs to be a more open discussion about this, are the school saying they can't meet your son's needs in their school? Or are they saying they COULD but need more funding through the statement? Or does the statement itself need amending ie: does it accurately reflect Luke's needs? I would suggest addressing this formally, through the statement review system, if your annual statement review is not imminent, you can ask the local authority about calling an 'emergency review'.

    But do speak to PPS as mentioned before. They will have the local knowledge needed and should be able to guide you through this. Just remember that the statement is a legal document, the local authority (not the school) HAVE to provide your son with the support outlined in his statement. If it can't be provided through his current school, they will have to help you find an alternative.

    Hope that's helpful. have a great summer

    xx