What is this "White Supremacy" I keep hearing about?

Hey guys, let's take out the emotion from this for a while and try to establish facts.

White supremacy is the belief that white people are inherently superior to other races. Confusingly, this generally includes Jewish people (?) You probably know what groups have had this idea during the history of our world, particularly during WW2, but I believe that thankfully most people at this point in time would not think this way. I'm certain nobody on this forum does.

White privilege is the belief that, although white people can be poor and disadvantaged, those who are black and from ethnic groups are far more likely to be stopped and / or arrested by the police, therefore even poor white people have an advantage over them. I think that this is what is being debated here.

I found some figures that show that it is true that in 2022 in UK, people were more likely to be stopped and searched if they were black or ethnic minority, than if they were white. However, this is one measure of "advantage". Research in educational achievement by race and class in the UK shows that poor white pupils do less well at school and are less likely to think about going to university than poor black and ethnic minority pupils. Both of these facts impact the lives of those who are disadvantaged, whatever their race or skin colour. 

Is the police force inherently racist? Are teaching staff subconsciously giving more attention to poor black or ethnic minority pupils to avoid being seen as racist? I don't know, but I do know that the government should be doing something to change it. Individuals should not be blamed en masse for an idea held by a minority.

There is also "white guilt" which is the idea that because rich white people bought black slaves from ( black) slave traders, current generations of white people should feel bad about it. Obviously slavery is abhorrent but white people have been slaves too, and Jewish people - who are white - have had an awful history of treatment by others. While it is important to support the belief that everyone should be treated equally, nobody should be blamed for something that happened before they were born, just because they have the same skin colour as the (now dead) people who abused others.

We just need to all treat each other with respect.

Hey guys, let's take out the emotion from this for a while and try to establish facts.

White supremacy is the belief that white people are inherently superior to other races. Confusingly, this generally includes Jewish people (?) You probably know what groups have had this idea during the history of our world, particularly during WW2, but I believe that thankfully most people at this point in time would not think this way. I'm certain nobody on this forum does.

White privilege is the belief that, although white people can be poor and disadvantaged, those who are black and from ethnic groups are far more likely to be stopped and / or arrested by the police, therefore even poor white people have an advantage over them. I think that this is what is being debated here.

I found some figures that show that it is true that in 2022 in UK, people were more likely to be stopped and searched if they were black or ethnic minority, than if they were white. However, this is one measure of "advantage". Research in educational achievement by race and class in the UK shows that poor white pupils do less well at school and are less likely to think about going to university than poor black and ethnic minority pupils. Both of these facts impact the lives of those who are disadvantaged, whatever their race or skin colour. 

Is the police force inherently racist? Are teaching staff subconsciously giving more attention to poor black or ethnic minority pupils to avoid being seen as racist? I don't know, but I do know that the government should be doing something to change it. Individuals should not be blamed en masse for an idea held by a minority.

There is also "white guilt" which is the idea that because rich white people bought black slaves from ( black) slave traders, current generations of white people should feel bad about it. Obviously slavery is abhorrent but white people have been slaves too, and Jewish people - who are white - have had an awful history of treatment by others. While it is important to support the belief that everyone should be treated equally, nobody should be blamed for something that happened before they were born, just because they have the same skin colour as the (now dead) people who abused others.

We just need to all treat each other with respect.

but is it respectful to have all of these terms that basically mean whoever is using them just hates white people?

how is a white person supposed to respond and be kind and civil to a person whos barking and snarling at us and claiming we are privileged and claiming we are racist supremacists? .... its disgustingly racist, and i dare anyone to snarl in my face and say all of these terms in their hate fueled way and see what my response would be to it. probably the same reaction youd get as saying the N word to a black person so yeah, all these terms are racist as hell

Pixiefox said:

White privilege is the belief that, although white people can be poor and disadvantaged, those who are black and from ethnic groups are far more likely to be stopped and / or arrested by the police, therefore even poor white people have an advantage over them. I think that this is what is being debated here.

Thank you for making this point.

I was finding it confusing.

It is actually white privilege that the OP must be talking about here and it is therefore meant to be the subject of the thread rather than 'white supremacy'.

I Sperg said:

Is it real, or just a psychological tool being used to marginalise and confuse white people in their own country